[NCSG-PC] [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Corrected: PLEASE REVIEW: ICANN82 Community Session Topic Submissions

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Fri Dec 20 02:50:36 EET 2024


Hi all,

The result of the vote led to not having a community session this time as
the vote was split between SO/AC. The time slot will be back to the
different SO/AC to use it as it fits. ALAC might choose to organize a
session based on those proposals but as an ALAC session with GAC.
We will have the "How We Meet session" on Monday .

Best,

Rafik

Le ven. 20 déc. 2024 à 05:42, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :

> I like both proposals.
>
> I think that the first one is more interesting, but a representative from
> ISOC, probably Sally, should definitely be included (and I am surprised it
> is not already, considering the work related to the Internet Invariants and
> the IWN/Critical Properties of the Internet).
>
> However, the second one would probably be more aligned with our goals as
> noncommercial, and a good opportunity to talk a little bit about the
> alleged intent of diversifying the domain name system, especially
> considering that it is going under scrutinize even by public authorities
> after the .com renovation. Btw, we surely should be included in that second
> discussion, if it is the one chosen.
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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> Em qui., 19 de dez. de 2024 às 03:33, Rafik Dammak via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escreveu:
>
>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> Yes, there are only 2 proposals, both from ALAC. I made a comment during
>> the production call, that we should have groups who make proposals to reach
>> out before. However the point was made that the timeline was quite short
>> and didn't leave enough time for groups to discuss internally and agree on
>> proposals. Voting for one proposal means we can join the planning group and
>> have a rep. I don't know how much we can influence but it is important to
>> have that in mind. The deadline for the vote is today 19th Dec.
>>
>> I think if we want a topic from our side, we should prepare from now as
>> we can expect the process to start even before ICANN82.
>> There is another session to be added from ICANN org called "How we meet"
>> community feedback session which is related to what was discussed by SOAC
>> chairs before ICANN81 and I believe Tomslin shared the details in the list
>> . The group will start working in January and get a proposal by ICANN82.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le mer. 18 déc. 2024 à 16:33, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Rafik
>>>
>>> So we did mention during the preparation that if the communities
>>> co-organize and co-submit proposals that would be better. Nobody reached
>>> out to us and we reached out to nobody. Proposal number 1 sounds promising
>>> but there are multiple weaknesses: 1) the topic is being discussed
>>> everywhere (the core values of the Internet) with no clear action items and
>>> by the same people for years. They have conveniently forgotten to add the
>>> GNSO. As long as ALAC is willing to work with NCSG and the GNSO and willing
>>> to reconsider its list of speakers and the excruciatingly boring panel
>>> conversations and invite outside experts, or at least people who have been
>>> decision makers in these areas (like the sovereign tech amba from Europe
>>> and a few others) then there might be some hope.
>>>
>>> The second proposal, this topic (global public interest and new gtlds)
>>> is creative and might be interesting. I also like it that they will
>>> consider other kinds of format.
>>>
>>> I only see two proposals? For the AGM I would like to work with other
>>> groups to have a human rights led conversation.
>>>
>>> My two cents.
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:08 AM Rafik Dammak via NCSG-EC <
>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached the list of submitted topics for the community
>>>> session and let me know your feedback.
>>>> I will cast a vote on the survey tool regarding those sessions, so any
>>>> guidance is welcome. Personally, I am not supporting those community
>>>> sessions since most of the time we will spend effort and energy trying to
>>>> get there, we have less influence in the content since it is quite driven
>>>> by the groups who submitted them. I also didn't hear so much positive
>>>> feedback about those sessions in terms of content. However, that is just my
>>>> opinion and I understand that others might see some benefits or usefulness
>>>> there. So let me know your suggestions/preferences.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - With the correct ICANN meeting number, thank you for the catch,
>>>>    Justine!
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached the submissions received for the ICANN82 Community
>>>> Session. Both submissions are from At-Large.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kindly review them and a voting tool will be circulated shortly for you
>>>> to make your choice between the two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Should you have any questions or comments, kindly share them on this
>>>> mailing list so all can contribute.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathalie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning <
>>>> soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org>
>>>> *Reply to: *Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
>>>> *Date: *Monday, 16 December 2024 at 18:18
>>>> *To: *"soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org" <
>>>> soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *[SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Reminder: Deadline
>>>> topic submission today!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A friendly reminder that the deadline for Community Session topic
>>>> submission is the 16 December 2024.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathalie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning <
>>>> soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org>
>>>> *Reply to: *Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
>>>> *Date: *Thursday, 5 December 2024 at 16:23
>>>> *To: *"soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org" <
>>>> soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *[SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Recording Production
>>>> call ICANN82 #2 and next steps ICANN82 Community Session
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you to those who attended the second ICANN82 Production call held
>>>> yesterday, 4th December 2024 at 17:00 UTC.  For those who couldn’t
>>>> make it, please find the Zoom recording here [icann.zoom.us]
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/rec/play/POkcvYbJipRLUPrc7znFkd9wzZ_qcVFzS8kuHZhJWlOnLZrm0fv6aEVw_mPsQIhFwP9ymJtwYe4ixK3i.QXd_r7NkH-nb--hz__;!!PtGJab4!-UUPOVfYG58p0dx6ixw1dZXg67UzXitAGwkAwLCtR2dzbF-wb1XIqJ5fyCLS1-mLa5EpyMKKYOy9GYQAnILVEvhw3KZVv7lMNEe6sT8$>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As first agenda item, the *ICANN82 Block Schedule,* updated with
>>>> community leader input shared on the first Production call, was accepted by
>>>> those on the call. This has now been circulated to the SOAC Support staff
>>>> who will assist the different community groups with their scheduling needs.
>>>> It is also attached to this email for your reference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The *ICANN82 Production timeline*, also attached to this email, was
>>>> shared with an emphasis on the tight timeline until ICANN82. The EMS
>>>> (scheduling tool) opening date, the 6th January 2025, was highlighted
>>>> as the date by which SO/AC internal schedules must be nearing completion,
>>>> as meeting session requests will need to be submitted via EMS to be posted
>>>> to the official meeting schedule. EMS will close on 17 January 2025.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This also impacts the *Community Session topic* discussion, as the
>>>> choice of the topic will inform SO/AC session scheduling. Community leaders
>>>> will need to decide whether to participate/ attend or schedule against the
>>>> Community Session, currently scheduled for Monday 10 March 2025, 10:45 –
>>>> 12:00 local time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The *following next steps *were agreed upon:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Staff will send out a list of plenary topic suggestions from
>>>>    ICANN81 to the planning list for community leaders’ reference (please see
>>>>    third attachment to this email).
>>>>    - Community leaders are invited to submit their suggested topics to
>>>>    the list, before the suggested deadline of 16 December 2024.
>>>>    - The suggested topics will be compiled in a survey or similar
>>>>    ranking tool, to be circulated to the community leaders.
>>>>    - A third Production call will be scheduled on the 18 December 2024
>>>>    for a discussion on the Community Session topic (if needed).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Note: *The 18 December Production call can be canceled if it is clear
>>>> that a decision can be made via the mailing list or if more time is needed
>>>> (e.g. to complete the survey). Optimally, a decision should be reached by
>>>> early January to coincide with the EMS dates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additional questions during the call covered the SOAC Chairs
>>>> Roundtable, confirmed for Friday 7 March 2025, time to be determined, but
>>>> likelihood is the afternoon, early evening period. The possibility of other
>>>> pre-meeting events taking place was raised, and this will be taken into
>>>> consideration when confirming the exact timing of the Roundtable. Policy
>>>> staff will check with Board Operations team and CEO Office to block the
>>>> requested time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please us know if you have any questions or concerns,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathalie
>>>>
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