<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>The result of the vote led to not having a community session this time as the vote was split between SO/AC. The time slot will be back to the different SO/AC to use it as it fits. ALAC might choose to organize a session based on those proposals but as an ALAC session with GAC. </div><div>We will have the "How We Meet session" on Monday . </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 20 déc. 2024 à 05:42, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <<a href="mailto:pedrodeperdigaolana@gmail.com" target="_blank">pedrodeperdigaolana@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I like both proposals. </div><div><br></div><div>I think that the first one is more interesting, but a representative from ISOC, probably Sally, should definitely be included (and I am surprised it is not already, considering the work related to the Internet Invariants and the IWN/Critical Properties of the Internet).</div><div><br></div><div>However, the second one would probably be more aligned with our goals as noncommercial, and a good opportunity to talk a little bit about the alleged intent of diversifying the domain name system, especially considering that it is going under scrutinize even by public authorities after the .com renovation. Btw, we surely should be included in that second discussion, if it is the one chosen.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cordially,</div><div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><b>Pedro de Perdigão Lana</b><br></font></font></span><div><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><a href="https://www.nic.br/" target="_blank">Lawyer</a>, </font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><a href="https://www.gedai.com.br/" target="_blank">GEDAI/UFPR</a> Researcher</font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2">PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)</font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"> </font></font></span></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"></span></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2">Coordination/Board/EC @</font></font></span><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"> </font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><a href="https://isoc.org.br/" target="_blank">ISOC BR</a></span></font><font size="1"><font size="2">,</font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"> </font></font><font size="2"><a href="https://www.ncuc.org" target="_blank">NCUC</a> & <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home" target="_blank">NCSG </a>(ICANN), <a href="https://youthlacigf.lat/" target="_blank">YouthLACIGF</a>,</font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"> <a href="https://ioda.org.br/" target="_blank">IODA</a> and </font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><a href="https://br.creativecommons.net/" target="_blank">CC Brasil</a></font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><br></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif"></span></div><div><font size="1"><span style="font-family:garamond,"times new roman",serif">This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it.</span></font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 19 de dez. de 2024 às 03:33, Rafik Dammak via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Farzaneh,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the feedback.</div><div>Yes, there are only 2 proposals, both from ALAC. I made a comment during the production call, that we should have groups who make proposals to reach out before. However the point was made that the timeline was quite short and didn't leave enough time for groups to discuss internally and agree on proposals. Voting for one proposal means we can join the planning group and have a rep. I don't know how much we can influence but it is important to have that in mind. The deadline for the vote is today 19th Dec.</div><div><br></div><div>I think if we want a topic from our side, we should prepare from now as we can expect the process to start even before ICANN82. </div><div>There is another session to be added from ICANN org called "How we meet" community feedback session which is related to what was discussed by SOAC chairs before ICANN81 and I believe Tomslin shared the details in the list<span style="font-size:14.6667px"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif">. </font></span>The group will start working in January and get a proposal by ICANN82.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 18 déc. 2024 à 16:33, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi Rafik </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So we did mention during the preparation that if the communities co-organize and co-submit proposals that would be better. Nobody reached out to us and we reached out to nobody. Proposal number 1 sounds promising but there are multiple weaknesses: 1) the topic is being discussed everywhere (the core values of the Internet) with no clear action items and by the same people for years. They have conveniently forgotten to add the GNSO. As long as ALAC is willing to work with NCSG and the GNSO and willing to reconsider its list of speakers and the excruciatingly boring panel conversations and invite outside experts, or at least people who have been decision makers in these areas (like the sovereign tech amba from Europe and a few others) then there might be some hope. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The second proposal, this topic (global public interest and new gtlds) is creative and might be interesting. I also like it that they will consider other kinds of format. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I only see two proposals? For the AGM I would like to work with other groups to have a human rights led conversation. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My two cents. <br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:08 AM Rafik Dammak via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Please find attached the list of submitted topics for the community session and let me know your feedback.</div><div>I will cast a vote on the survey tool regarding those sessions, so any guidance is welcome. Personally, I am not supporting those community sessions since most of the time we will spend effort and energy trying to get there, we have less influence in the content since it is quite driven by the groups who submitted them. I also didn't hear so much positive feedback about those sessions in terms of content. However, that is just my opinion and I understand that others might see some benefits or usefulness there. So let me know your suggestions/preferences.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br><br></div><br><br><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Please find attached the submissions received for the ICANN82 Community Session. Both submissions are from At-Large.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Kindly review them and a voting tool will be circulated shortly for you to make your choice between the two.
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning <<a href="mailto:soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply to: </b>Nathalie Peregrine <<a href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org" target="_blank">nathalie.peregrine@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 16 December 2024 at 18:18<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Reminder: Deadline topic submission today!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A friendly reminder that the deadline for Community Session topic submission is the 16 December 2024.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Nathalie <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning <<a href="mailto:soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply to: </b>Nathalie Peregrine <<a href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org" target="_blank">nathalie.peregrine@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 5 December 2024 at 16:23<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Recording Production call ICANN82 #2 and next steps ICANN82 Community Session<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you to those who attended the second ICANN82 Production call held yesterday, 4<sup>th</sup> December 2024 at 17:00 UTC. For those who couldn’t make it, please find the Zoom recording
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/rec/play/POkcvYbJipRLUPrc7znFkd9wzZ_qcVFzS8kuHZhJWlOnLZrm0fv6aEVw_mPsQIhFwP9ymJtwYe4ixK3i.QXd_r7NkH-nb--hz__;!!PtGJab4!-UUPOVfYG58p0dx6ixw1dZXg67UzXitAGwkAwLCtR2dzbF-wb1XIqJ5fyCLS1-mLa5EpyMKKYOy9GYQAnILVEvhw3KZVv7lMNEe6sT8$" target="_blank">
here [icann.zoom.us]</a>. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As first agenda item, the <b>ICANN82 Block Schedule,</b> updated with community leader input shared on the first Production call, was accepted by those on the call. This has now been circulated to the SOAC Support staff
who will assist the different community groups with their scheduling needs. It is also attached to this email for your reference.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The <b>ICANN82 Production timeline</b>, also attached to this email, was shared with an emphasis on the tight timeline until ICANN82. The EMS (scheduling tool) opening date, the 6<sup>th</sup> January 2025, was highlighted
as the date by which SO/AC internal schedules must be nearing completion, as meeting session requests will need to be submitted via EMS to be posted to the official meeting schedule. EMS will close on 17 January 2025.<b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This also impacts the <b>Community Session topic</b> discussion, as the choice of the topic will inform SO/AC session scheduling. Community leaders will need to decide whether to participate/ attend or schedule against
the Community Session, currently scheduled for Monday 10 March 2025, 10:45 – 12:00 local time.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The <b>following next steps </b>were agreed upon:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">Staff will send out a list of plenary topic suggestions from ICANN81 to the planning list for community leaders’ reference (please see third attachment to this email).<u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">Community leaders are invited to submit their suggested topics to the list, before the suggested deadline of 16 December 2024.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">The suggested topics will be compiled in a survey<b>
</b>or similar ranking tool, to be circulated to the community leaders. <u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="margin-left:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">A third Production call will be scheduled on the 18 December 2024 for a discussion on the Community Session topic (if needed).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Note: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">The 18 December Production call can be canceled if it is clear that a decision can be made via the mailing list or if more time is needed (e.g. to complete the survey). Optimally,
a decision should be reached by early January to coincide with the EMS dates. <b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Additional questions during the call covered the SOAC Chairs Roundtable, confirmed for Friday 7 March 2025, time to be determined, but likelihood is the afternoon, early evening period. The possibility of other pre-meeting
events taking place was raised, and this will be taken into consideration when confirming the exact timing of the Roundtable. Policy staff will check with Board Operations team and CEO Office to block the requested time.<b><u></u><u></u></b></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Please us know if you have any questions or concerns,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Nathalie<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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