[NCSG-PC] NCSG seat for ICANN Leadership Program (LP) 2024
Tomslin Samme-Nlar
mesumbeslin at gmail.com
Sat Nov 4 13:26:52 EET 2023
Hi Bruna,
I appreciate the comments.
My proposal was based on Julf's explicit recommendation that PC takes the
slot (see my earlier question to Julf). But like I mentioned to Julf in my
question, the PC has not before been asked to make such a decision, so I
am more than happy for Julf to make the call.
Warmly,
Tomslin
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023, 21:13 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I’m going to open a disagreement here because I don’t think it is fair to
> exclude wider NCSG leadership - aka NCSG EC members - from this
> opportunity.
>
> I have taken part of the Leadership Training before and as the name says
> it’s something that trains upcoming or incoming leadership from
> communities. It’s not a policy exclusive program that would justify using
> the slots exclusively for PC members.
>
> I understand that we need to bring in more people to the PC leadership
> role but I wouldn’t use this training as an opportunity for doing so. And
> would not like for us to take the chance of attending this training away
> from current NCSG EC members if any of them would also like to attend. Plus
> here I truly believe it’s a decision that Julf should make instead of PC.
>
> Apologies for disagreeing w/ the suggested approach.
>
> Kind regards,
> Bruna
>
> Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> schrieb am Sa. 4. Nov. 2023 um 07:13:
>
>> No objection from me
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Nov 2023, 4:55 am Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Juan, all,
>>>
>>> I gave this a bit of further thought. I realised in the past, it was
>>> pretty straightforward because the criteria was simply NCSG leadership to
>>> attend.
>>>
>>> In the same way, to avoid an unnecessary very complex process, I
>>> recommend we limit the criteria to Policy Committee leadership. Another
>>> reason for limiting it to leadership is for it to act as incentive to
>>> encourage members who would otherwise not be interested in PC leadership to
>>> consider it.
>>>
>>> NCSG charter allows for a chair and 2 vice-chairs in PC leadership. We
>>> currently have only one vice-chair because no one else was interested.
>>>
>>> Following my proposal above, in terms of eligibility for this LP seat,
>>> only myself and the vice-chair, Peter Akinremi are eligible. As current
>>> chair, I naturally would love for vice-chairs to be confident enough to
>>> become chair, despite the fact that there hasn't been any precedent of
>>> this. NCSG struggled to have someone volunteer to be PC chair after Rafik.
>>> That is not something I'd like to see repeating. So, my proposal is for the
>>> current vice-chair (Akinremi Peter) to take this LP seat that has been
>>> offered to the PC.
>>>
>>> Can members let me know if they object to this proposal.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Tomslin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 4 Nov 2023, 01:18 Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-PC, <
>>> ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Tomslin and all,
>>>> I'd like to suggest Wisdom Donkor as a candidate to be on the LP 2024,
>>>> if he hadn't the chance before.
>>>>
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>>>> NPOC Chair - NCSG/GNSO
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El jueves, 2 de noviembre de 2023, 08:39:12 a. m. GMT-5, Akinremi Peter
>>>> Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me, I would suggest you attend as the current policy chair except
>>>> we can get the new PC chair elected before the deadline.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, 1:43 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi team,
>>>>
>>>> The PC has been asked to select someone to attend the above program
>>>> from PC leadership. I was hoping we'd elect a new PC leadership before
>>>> making the decision but unfortunately the deadline to submit a name for
>>>> this is Wednesday, 15 November 2023. How do you all suggest we go about
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Tomslin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, 03:29 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I get it now. Makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Tomslin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, 02:40 Johan Helsingius, <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Typically it would be the incoming NCSG chair, but when a chair gets
>>>> re-elected, someone else in our (future) leadership should get
>>>> to do it - PC chair, for example.
>>>>
>>>> Julf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/10/2023 22:03, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>>>> > Hi Julf,
>>>> >
>>>> > Is your expectation that someone from the PC will be selected? Since
>>>> I
>>>> > don't believe the PC has made a selection for this before.
>>>> >
>>>> > Warmly,
>>>> > Tomslin
>>>> > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>>>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 00:38, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com
>>>> > <mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> > Subject: Invitation - RSVP - ICANN Leadership Program (LP)
>>>> 2024
>>>> > Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 17:43:28 +0000
>>>> > From: Public Responsibility Support <prs at icann.org
>>>> > <mailto:prs at icann.org>>
>>>> > To: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>>>> > CC: Sandra Hoferichter <info at hoferichter.eu
>>>> > <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>>, Ergys Ramaj
>>>> > <ergys.ramaj at icann.org <mailto:ergys.ramaj at icann.org>>, Andrea
>>>> > Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org <mailto:
>>>> andrea.glandon at icann.org>>,
>>>> > Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes at icann.org <mailto:
>>>> carlos.reyes at icann.org>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear Julf,
>>>> >
>>>> > It was great having you join us for the 2023 ICANN Academy
>>>> Leadership
>>>> > Program (LP)!
>>>> >
>>>> > We are now preparing for the 8^th edition of the LP, which is
>>>> > scheduled
>>>> > to take place 29 February - 1 March 2024, two days prior to the
>>>> > official
>>>> > start of ICANN79 in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
>>>> >
>>>> > For this program, one seat is reserved for a representative from
>>>> the
>>>> > NCSG. As you are aware, the program is designed for current
>>>> > /_and_/incoming leaders, helping to increase understanding of the
>>>> > complexity of ICANN and to develop facilitation skills, as well as
>>>> > building a network with other leaders. We are aware that
>>>> understanding
>>>> > ICANN as an organization, the topics discussed within ICANN, and
>>>> > interaction within other stakeholder groups can be challenging for
>>>> > incoming leaders, but sometimes also for experienced leaders.
>>>> ICANN and
>>>> > the community are making considerable efforts in order to help
>>>> incoming
>>>> > leaders have a good start to their terms and to provide current
>>>> leaders
>>>> > the opportunity to strengthen their leadership and facilitation
>>>> skills.
>>>> > Opportunities for Leadership Program participants include the
>>>> following:
>>>> >
>>>> > * Meet leaders from the other SOs/ACs and get an insight of
>>>> the
>>>> > functionality and issues in other groups
>>>> > * Discuss current ICANN topics in an in-depth manner
>>>> > * Deepen the understanding of key ICANN processes
>>>> > * Develop facilitation and leadership skills, focused personal
>>>> > effectiveness to run meetings and foster processes
>>>> >
>>>> > A preliminary agenda is attached to this email. Kindly note that
>>>> > this is
>>>> > subject to change.
>>>> >
>>>> > Accommodation for participants will be covered between Wednesday
>>>> and
>>>> > Thursday, 28-29 February 2024, and participants will receive a
>>>> stipend.
>>>> > Please note that flights will*NOT*be covered under this program,
>>>> as
>>>> > incoming and current leaders are normally covered by the regular
>>>> ICANN
>>>> > travel support. Please ensure that the leaders you select are
>>>> being
>>>> > covered by ICANN Travel Support for their flights to San Juan for
>>>> > ICANN79.
>>>> >
>>>> > We would like to ask you to identify one incoming or current
>>>> leader
>>>> > from
>>>> > your stakeholder group who is interested and available to
>>>> > participate in
>>>> > this program. We recommend that you also identify an alternate
>>>> > candidate.
>>>> >
>>>> > *Kindly forward us the names and email addresses of the endorsed
>>>> > individuals no later than Wednesday, 15 November 2023, and ask
>>>> them to
>>>> > register **here* <https://forms.gle/cvr6qt5jRXGQKQNo6
>>>> > <https://forms.gle/cvr6qt5jRXGQKQNo6>>***by Friday, 17
>>>> > November 2023.*
>>>> >
>>>> > We hope this program will meet the needs of your community. All
>>>> > participants will be encouraged to partake in an open exchange of
>>>> their
>>>> > views, as this will help facilitate cross-constituency
>>>> collaboration
>>>> > during their terms.
>>>> >
>>>> > We are happy to answer any questions you may have and look
>>>> forward to
>>>> > having your group’s participants confirmed.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you would like to learn more about the program, Sandra can
>>>> give a
>>>> > short presentation at the upcoming ICANN78 meeting at a time that
>>>> is
>>>> > convenient for your group.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Sandra Hoferichter, Chair of the ICANN Academy Working Group
>>>> >
>>>> > Fernanda Iunes, ICANN Capacity Development Program Manager
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