[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
Judith Hellerstein
judith at jhellerstein.com
Tue May 30 15:47:54 EEST 2023
HiJulf,
They extended the date for comments by a week so we still have time and I am still getting comments from people. Will close it shortly
Judith
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> On May 30, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>
> Tomslin, did you submit our comments?
>
> Julf
>
>
>> On 28/05/2023 15:29, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>> Hi Judith,
>> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please reconcile them?
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>> HI Juan,
>> I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>> something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the
>> Public Comment we could not address it here. We have to address
>> this issue in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>> That was why I pulled it from the draft statement. In a public
>> comment, we can only comment on what is written and not an item that
>> has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>> Best,
>> Judith
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>>> On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in
>>> the same comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as
>>> this comment is regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>>> NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>>> Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>>> Master IT candidate, UNAD
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>>>
>>> /Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
>>> Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin
>>> Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear PC,
>>>
>>> Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that
>>> closes on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein
>>> and Peter Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the
>>> draft by midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Tomslin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com
>>> <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>>
>>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>>> Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>>> To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>>
>>> Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>, Raoul
>>> Plommer <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com>>, Tomslin
>>> Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>>,
>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Caleb,
>>>
>>> Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
>>> various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment. I do not know
>>> who is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to
>>> them for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>
>>> Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
>>> rights. What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
>>> deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
>>> approved and ratified one later
>>>
>>> I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judith
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>> On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>>> Hi Judith,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>>
>>>> Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google
>>>> doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>>
>>>> One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write
>>>> ICANN for a little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to
>>>> provide feedback and ratify public comments that represents the
>>>> NCSG's views.
>>>>
>>>> Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to take a lead on this.
>>>> I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support
>>>> the arguments that will be put forward.
>>>>
>>>> Caleb
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>>> <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> HI All,
>>>>
>>>> Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying
>>>> that Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom
>>>> Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to
>>>> all constituencies. I suggested that we draft a statement in
>>>> response to the public comment on the NomCom Review, and will
>>>> be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
>>>> questions they are asking us to comment upon. Public
>>>> Comments are due May 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow
>>>> NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also suggested he was
>>>> interested in helping draft.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for
>>>> Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
>>>> statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>>
>>>> 2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
>>>> proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
>>>> Transition Clause
>>>>
>>>> Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms,
>>>> instead of one year.
>>>> Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to
>>>> be able to vote, except for leadership.
>>>> Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity
>>>> across annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional
>>>> memory of the NomCom.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>>
>>>> 4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to
>>>> allow them to accept a voting slot instead of the current
>>>> non-voting slot
>>>>
>>>> Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes. Only
>>>> contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Judith Hellerstein
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>>
>>>> On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>>> I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6
>>>>> months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Julf,
>>>>>> Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I
>>>>>> was told the time to have done this negotiation was several
>>>>>> months ago before the GNSO rejected these ideas. Sorry but
>>>>>> I had not been focusing on these issues 6 months ago. The
>>>>>> suggestion that was in the original public comment was what
>>>>>> the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could
>>>>>> decide for itself but apparently according to CLO, groups
>>>>>> within the GNSO heavily resisted this change and that was
>>>>>> why the board/ review committee took back part of the
>>>>>> review. . ALAC was for it and wanted to see this
>>>>>> rebalancing but the review committee and Board got too much
>>>>>> flack from people within the GNSO so they had to pull even
>>>>>> this simple adjustment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the
>>>>>> letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe
>>>>>> the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as the only
>>>>>> reason it was not given to the NCSG was because NPOC and
>>>>>> the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the
>>>>>> NomCom Review. Has one been created. If not, I can pass
>>>>>> you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing for ALAC.
>>>>>> The only contested issue not decided is the definition of
>>>>>> unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise,
>>>>>> What I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Judith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>>>>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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