[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
Johan Helsingius
julf at Julf.com
Tue May 30 15:38:58 EEST 2023
Tomslin, did you submit our comments?
Julf
On 28/05/2023 15:29, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
> Hi Judith,
>
> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please
> reconcile them?
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
>
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein
> <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>
> HI Juan,
>
> I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
> something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the
> Public Comment we could not address it here. We have to address
> this issue in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>
> That was why I pulled it from the draft statement. In a public
> comment, we can only comment on what is written and not an item that
> has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
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> On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in
>> the same comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as
>> this comment is regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>> NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>> Founding member - ISOC Colombia
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin
>> Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>> escribió:
>>
>>
>> Dear PC,
>>
>> Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that
>> closes on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein
>> and Peter Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the
>> draft by midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com
>> <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>>
>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>> Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>> To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>> <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>>
>> Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>, Raoul
>> Plommer <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com>>, Tomslin
>> Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>>,
>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Caleb,
>>
>> Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
>> various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment. I do not know
>> who is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to
>> them for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing>
>>
>> Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
>> rights. What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
>> deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
>> approved and ratified one later
>>
>> I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>> Hellerstein & Associates
>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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>> On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>> Hi Judith,
>>>
>>> Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>
>>> Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google
>>> doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>
>>> One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write
>>> ICANN for a little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to
>>> provide feedback and ratify public comments that represents the
>>> NCSG's views.
>>>
>>> Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to take a lead on this.
>>> I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support
>>> the arguments that will be put forward.
>>>
>>> Caleb
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>> <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> HI All,
>>>
>>> Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying
>>> that Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom
>>> Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to
>>> all constituencies. I suggested that we draft a statement in
>>> response to the public comment on the NomCom Review, and will
>>> be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
>>> questions they are asking us to comment upon. Public
>>> Comments are due May 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow
>>> NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also suggested he was
>>> interested in helping draft.
>>>
>>> 1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for
>>> Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
>>> statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>
>>> 2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
>>> proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
>>> Transition Clause
>>>
>>> Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms,
>>> instead of one year.
>>> Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to
>>> be able to vote, except for leadership.
>>> Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity
>>> across annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional
>>> memory of the NomCom.
>>>
>>> 3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>
>>> 4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to
>>> allow them to accept a voting slot instead of the current
>>> non-voting slot
>>>
>>> Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes. Only
>>> contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judith Hellerstein
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>
>>> On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>> I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6
>>>> months ago.
>>>>
>>>> Julf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>>> Hi Julf,
>>>>> Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I
>>>>> was told the time to have done this negotiation was several
>>>>> months ago before the GNSO rejected these ideas. Sorry but
>>>>> I had not been focusing on these issues 6 months ago. The
>>>>> suggestion that was in the original public comment was what
>>>>> the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could
>>>>> decide for itself but apparently according to CLO, groups
>>>>> within the GNSO heavily resisted this change and that was
>>>>> why the board/ review committee took back part of the
>>>>> review. . ALAC was for it and wanted to see this
>>>>> rebalancing but the review committee and Board got too much
>>>>> flack from people within the GNSO so they had to pull even
>>>>> this simple adjustment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the
>>>>> letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe
>>>>> the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as the only
>>>>> reason it was not given to the NCSG was because NPOC and
>>>>> the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first created.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the
>>>>> NomCom Review. Has one been created. If not, I can pass
>>>>> you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing for ALAC.
>>>>> The only contested issue not decided is the definition of
>>>>> unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise,
>>>>> What I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Judith
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>>>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>>>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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