[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
Judith Hellerstein
judith at jhellerstein.com
Mon May 29 07:09:58 EEST 2023
Hi All,
Thanks. I hope I have clarified this issues now as I added in some wording into
the document
Best,
Judith
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On 5/29/23 12:02 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
> Thank you, Judith.
>
> @Rafik Dammak <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> will you be able to look at the
> comments Judith has left sometime today?
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
> On Mon, 29 May 2023, 06:59 Judith Hellerstein, <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>
> HI Tomslin,
>
> I accepted some of the changes but could not accept Rafik's as he is not
> understanding how the NomCom Operates and what they are recommending. I
> have added in replies to his comments to explain them and hope this helps
>
> Here again is the link.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Once Rafik has read this and accepted it, I can resolve all the comments
> and submit it. Do let me know what is the process. I believe we will have
> a one-day extension since tomorrow is a holiday in the US and ICANN
> usually does not have comments due on the holiday as US staff are off.
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
> Hellerstein & Associates
> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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>
> On 5/28/23 9:29 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>> Hi Judith,
>>
>> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please
>> reconcile them?
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein
>> <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Juan,
>>
>> I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>> something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the Public
>> Comment we could not address it here. We have to address this issue
>> in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>>
>> That was why I pulled it from the draft statement. In a public
>> comment, we can only comment on what is written and not an item that
>> has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>> Hellerstein & Associates
>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>> E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com Website:www.jhellerstein.com <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
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>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>
>> On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in the
>>> same comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as this
>>> comment is regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>>> NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>>> Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>>> Master IT candidate, UNAD
>>> Registered Linux User No.*533108.*
>>>
>>> /Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
>>> Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin
>>> Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear PC,
>>>
>>> Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that closes
>>> on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein and Peter
>>> Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the draft by
>>> midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Tomslin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>>> Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>>> To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>, Raoul Plommer
>>> <plommer at gmail.com>, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>,
>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Caleb,
>>>
>>> Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
>>> various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment. I do not know who
>>> is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to them
>>> for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
>>> rights. What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
>>> deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
>>> approved and ratified one later
>>>
>>> I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judith
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>> E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com Website:www.jhellerstein.com <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
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>>>
>>> On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>>> Hi Judith,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>>
>>>> Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google
>>>> doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>>
>>>> One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write ICANN
>>>> for a little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to provide
>>>> feedback and ratify public comments that represents the NCSG's views.
>>>>
>>>> Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to take a lead on this.
>>>> I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support
>>>> the arguments that will be put forward.
>>>>
>>>> Caleb
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>>> <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> HI All,
>>>>
>>>> Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying
>>>> that Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom
>>>> Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to all
>>>> constituencies. I suggested that we draft a statement in
>>>> response to the public comment on the NomCom Review, and will
>>>> be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4 questions
>>>> they are asking us to comment upon. Public Comments are due
>>>> May 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow NomCom rep, Peter
>>>> Taiwo as he also suggested he was interested in helping draft.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for
>>>> Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
>>>> statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>>
>>>> 2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
>>>> proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
>>>> Transition Clause
>>>>
>>>> Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms,
>>>> instead of one year.
>>>> Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to be
>>>> able to vote, except for leadership.
>>>> Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity
>>>> across annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional
>>>> memory of the NomCom.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>>
>>>> 4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to
>>>> allow them to accept a voting slot instead of the current
>>>> non-voting slot
>>>>
>>>> Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes. Only
>>>> contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Judith Hellerstein
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>>> E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com Website:www.jhellerstein.com <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
>>>> Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>>
>>>> On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>>> I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6
>>>>> months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Julf,
>>>>>> Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I
>>>>>> was told the time to have done this negotiation was several
>>>>>> months ago before the GNSO rejected these ideas. Sorry but I
>>>>>> had not been focusing on these issues 6 months ago. The
>>>>>> suggestion that was in the original public comment was what
>>>>>> the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could
>>>>>> decide for itself but apparently according to CLO, groups
>>>>>> within the GNSO heavily resisted this change and that was why
>>>>>> the board/ review committee took back part of the review. .
>>>>>> ALAC was for it and wanted to see this rebalancing but the
>>>>>> review committee and Board got too much flack from people
>>>>>> within the GNSO so they had to pull even this simple adjustment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the
>>>>>> letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe
>>>>>> the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as the only
>>>>>> reason it was not given to the NCSG was because NPOC and the
>>>>>> NCSG had not existed when these slots were first created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the
>>>>>> NomCom Review. Has one been created. If not, I can pass
>>>>>> you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing for ALAC. The
>>>>>> only contested issue not decided is the definition of
>>>>>> unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise, What
>>>>>> I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Judith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com
>>>>>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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