[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29

Mon May 29 07:02:36 EEST 2023

Thank you, Judith.

@Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> will you be able to look at the
comments Judith has left sometime today?

Warmly,
Tomslin

On Mon, 29 May 2023, 06:59 Judith Hellerstein, <judith at jhellerstein.com>
wrote:

> HI Tomslin,
>
> I accepted some of the changes but could not accept Rafik's as he is not
> understanding how the NomCom Operates and what they are recommending.  I
> have added in replies to his comments to explain them and hope this helps
>
> Here again is the link.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Once Rafik has read this and accepted it, I can resolve all the comments
> and submit it.  Do let me know what is the process. I believe we will have
> a one-day extension since tomorrow is a holiday in the US and ICANN usually
> does not have comments due on the holiday as US staff are off.
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
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> On 5/28/23 9:29 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>
> Hi Judith,
>
> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please
> reconcile them?
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
>
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> wrote:
>
>> HI Juan,
>>
>> I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>> something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the Public
>> Comment we could not address it here.  We have to address this issue in
>> both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>>
>> That was why I pulled it from the draft statement.  In a public comment,
>> we can only comment on what is written and not an item that has been
>> withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>> Hellerstein & Associates
>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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>>
>> On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in the same
>> comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as this comment is
>> regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>> NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>> Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>> Master IT candidate, UNAD
>> Registered Linux User No.*533108.*
>>
>>
>> *Cel. +57 301 743 56 00 Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas
>> <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
>> <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>>
>> Dear PC,
>>
>> Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that closes on
>> May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein and Peter Akinremi.
>> Please provide your urgent comments to the draft by midnight UTC on
>> Thursday 25th May.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>> Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>> To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>,
>> Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>> compsoftnet at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi Caleb,
>>
>> Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the various
>> Policy teams within the NCSG for comment.  I do not know who is on the PC
>> FO to send it to so please can you send this to them for me. Also not sure
>> of your particular style or not.
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting rights.
>> What we might want to do if we run out of time before the deadline is to
>> post a draft first and then replace it with the approved and ratified one
>> later
>>
>> I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>> Hellerstein & Associates
>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com   Website: www.jhellerstein.com
>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/
>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>
>>
>> On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Judith,
>>
>> Thank you for coming up with this.
>>
>> Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google doc and
>> ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>
>> One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write ICANN for a
>> little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to provide feedback and
>> ratify public comments that  represents the NCSG's views.
>>
>> Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you
>> to take a lead on this.
>> I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support the
>> arguments that will be put forward.
>>
>> Caleb
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> HI All,
>>
>> Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying that
>> Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom Rebalancing letter
>> that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to all constituencies.  I suggested
>> that we draft a statement in response to the public comment on the NomCom
>> Review, and will be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
>> questions they are asking us to comment upon.  Public Comments are due May
>> 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also
>> suggested he was interested in helping draft.
>>
>> 1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for Article 7
>> of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed statement defining
>> “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>
>> 2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments proposed to
>> Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the Transition Clause
>>
>>     Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms, instead of
>> one year.
>>     Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to be able to
>> vote, except for leadership.
>>     Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity across
>> annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional memory of the NomCom.
>>
>>  3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>
>> 4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to allow them
>> to accept a voting slot instead of the current non-voting slot
>>
>> Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes.  Only contentious
>> issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith Hellerstein
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>> Hellerstein & Associates
>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com   Website: www.jhellerstein.com
>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/
>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>
>>
>> On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>
>> I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6 months ago.
>>
>>     Julf
>>
>>
>> On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>
>> Hi Julf,
>> Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I was told the
>> time to have done this negotiation was several months ago before the GNSO
>> rejected these ideas.  Sorry but I had not been focusing on these issues 6
>> months ago.  The suggestion that was in the original public comment was
>> what the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could decide for
>> itself but apparently according to CLO, groups within the GNSO heavily
>> resisted this change and that was why the board/ review committee took back
>> part of the review. .  ALAC was for it and wanted to see this rebalancing
>> but the review committee and Board got too much flack from people within
>> the GNSO so they had to pull even this simple adjustment.
>>
>> Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the letter it is
>> unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe the NCSG can take back the
>> slot from the NCUC as the only reason it was not given to the NCSG was
>> because NPOC and the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first
>> created.
>>
>> I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the NomCom Review.
>>   Has one been created.  If not, I can pass you forward the one myself and
>> Yrjo are writing for ALAC. The only contested issue not decided is the
>> definition of unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise, What
>> I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>
>> Best,
>> Judith
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> judith at jhellerstein.com
>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     --     *Caleb Ogundele*
>>     Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>
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