[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29

Sun May 28 16:29:31 EEST 2023

Hi Judith,

There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please
reconcile them?

Warmly,
Tomslin

On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
wrote:

> HI Juan,
>
> I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
> something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the Public
> Comment we could not address it here.  We have to address this issue in
> both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>
> That was why I pulled it from the draft statement.  In a public comment,
> we can only comment on what is written and not an item that has been
> withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
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> On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in the same
> comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as this comment is
> regarding NomCom rebalance.
>
> Best regards,
>
> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
> NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
> Founding member - ISOC Colombia
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>
>
> *Cel. +57 301 743 56 00 Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas
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>
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>
> El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
> <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>
> Dear PC,
>
> Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that closes on
> May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein and Peter Akinremi.
> Please provide your urgent comments to the draft by midnight UTC on
> Thursday 25th May.
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
> Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
> To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
> Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>,
> Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
> compsoftnet at gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi Caleb,
>
> Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the various
> Policy teams within the NCSG for comment.  I do not know who is on the PC
> FO to send it to so please can you send this to them for me. Also not sure
> of your particular style or not.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting rights.  What
> we might want to do if we run out of time before the deadline is to post a
> draft first and then replace it with the approved and ratified one later
>
> I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
> Hellerstein & Associates
> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>
> On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>
> Hi Judith,
>
> Thank you for coming up with this.
>
> Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google doc and
> ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>
> One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write ICANN for a
> little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to provide feedback and
> ratify public comments that  represents the NCSG's views.
>
> Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to
> take a lead on this.
> I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support the
> arguments that will be put forward.
>
> Caleb
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> wrote:
>
> HI All,
>
> Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying that
> Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom Rebalancing letter
> that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to all constituencies.  I suggested
> that we draft a statement in response to the public comment on the NomCom
> Review, and will be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
> questions they are asking us to comment upon.  Public Comments are due May
> 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also
> suggested he was interested in helping draft.
>
> 1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for Article 7 of
> the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed statement defining “Unaffiliated”
> Directors?
>
> 2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments proposed to
> Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the Transition Clause
>
>     Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms, instead of one
> year.
>     Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to be able to
> vote, except for leadership.
>     Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity across annual
> NomCom cycles and to build the institutional memory of the NomCom.
>
>  3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>
> 4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to allow them
> to accept a voting slot instead of the current non-voting slot
>
> Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes.  Only contentious
> issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>
> Best,
>
> Judith Hellerstein
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
> Hellerstein & Associates
> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>
>
> On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>
> I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6 months ago.
>
>     Julf
>
>
> On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>
> Hi Julf,
> Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I was told the
> time to have done this negotiation was several months ago before the GNSO
> rejected these ideas.  Sorry but I had not been focusing on these issues 6
> months ago.  The suggestion that was in the original public comment was
> what the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could decide for
> itself but apparently according to CLO, groups within the GNSO heavily
> resisted this change and that was why the board/ review committee took back
> part of the review. .  ALAC was for it and wanted to see this rebalancing
> but the review committee and Board got too much flack from people within
> the GNSO so they had to pull even this simple adjustment.
>
> Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the letter it is
> unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe the NCSG can take back the
> slot from the NCUC as the only reason it was not given to the NCSG was
> because NPOC and the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first
> created.
>
> I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the NomCom Review.
>   Has one been created.  If not, I can pass you forward the one myself and
> Yrjo are writing for ALAC. The only contested issue not decided is the
> definition of unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise, What
> I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>
> Best,
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPad
> judith at jhellerstein.com
> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>
>
>
>
>     --     *Caleb Ogundele*
>     Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
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