[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29

Thu Jun 1 05:48:23 EEST 2023

++ Judith

On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 00:02, Stephanie E Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Thanks for taking some of my suggestions Judith....I added a few more
> edits to tighten it; my only substantive query now is on three year terms
> for the standing committee.  Seems too long, there are plenty of candidates
> for the standing committee, we dont need folks who have already served on
> NomCom for four years hanging around another 3?  I think 2 is lots....
>
> cheers and many thanks for all this hard work!
>
> Stephanie Perrin
> On 2023-05-30 7:56 p.m., Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>
> HI Tomslin,
>
> I have resolved all the comments and also added in some phrasing to answer
> the questions raised by the persons who commented on the document and it is
> now ready to go.  Let me know what else you want or need to do before this
> gets ratified by the NCSG councillors
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
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> On 5/29/23 12:24 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>
> Hi and thanks again, Judith.
>
> The process is this: once the penholdet (you) has addressed all comments
> with the contributors,  the PC normally takes a final look at it before the
> NCSG PC chair (me) submits the comment on behalf of NCSG.
>
> Seeing that we don't have time for another whole of PC review on this one,
> I will rely on the collaboration effort between yourself and the other NCSG
> members who are contributing to the comment (most of which are PC members)
> as endorsement.
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
> On Mon, 29 May 2023, 06:59 Judith Hellerstein, <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> wrote:
>
>> HI Tomslin,
>>
>> I accepted some of the changes but could not accept Rafik's as he is not
>> understanding how the NomCom Operates and what they are recommending.  I
>> have added in replies to his comments to explain them and hope this helps
>>
>> Here again is the link.
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Once Rafik has read this and accepted it, I can resolve all the comments
>> and submit it.  Do let me know what is the process. I believe we will have
>> a one-day extension since tomorrow is a holiday in the US and ICANN usually
>> does not have comments due on the holiday as US staff are off.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>> Hellerstein & Associates
>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>>
>> On 5/28/23 9:29 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>>
>> Hi Judith,
>>
>> There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please
>> reconcile them?
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Juan,
>>>
>>> I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>>> something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the Public
>>> Comment we could not address it here.  We have to address this issue in
>>> both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>>>
>>> That was why I pulled it from the draft statement.  In a public comment,
>>> we can only comment on what is written and not an item that has been
>>> withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judith
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in the same
>>> comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as this comment is
>>> regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>>> NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>>> Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>>> Master IT candidate, UNAD
>>> Registered Linux User No.*533108.*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Cel. +57 301 743 56 00 Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas
>>> <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
>>> <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear PC,
>>>
>>> Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that closes on
>>> May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein and Peter Akinremi.
>>> Please provide your urgent comments to the draft by midnight UTC on
>>> Thursday 25th May.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Tomslin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>>> Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>>> To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>,
>>> Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Caleb,
>>>
>>> Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the various
>>> Policy teams within the NCSG for comment.  I do not know who is on the PC
>>> FO to send it to so please can you send this to them for me. Also not sure
>>> of your particular style or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting rights.
>>> What we might want to do if we run out of time before the deadline is to
>>> post a draft first and then replace it with the approved and ratified one
>>> later
>>>
>>> I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judith
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>>>
>>> On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Judith,
>>>
>>> Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>
>>> Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google doc and
>>> ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>
>>> One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write ICANN for a
>>> little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to provide feedback and
>>> ratify public comments that  represents the NCSG's views.
>>>
>>> Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you
>>> to take a lead on this.
>>> I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support the
>>> arguments that will be put forward.
>>>
>>> Caleb
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein <
>>> judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> HI All,
>>>
>>> Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying that
>>> Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom Rebalancing letter
>>> that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to all constituencies.  I suggested
>>> that we draft a statement in response to the public comment on the NomCom
>>> Review, and will be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4
>>> questions they are asking us to comment upon.  Public Comments are due May
>>> 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he also
>>> suggested he was interested in helping draft.
>>>
>>> 1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for Article 7
>>> of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed statement defining
>>> “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>
>>> 2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments proposed to
>>> Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the Transition Clause
>>>
>>>     Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms, instead of
>>> one year.
>>>     Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to be able to
>>> vote, except for leadership.
>>>     Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity across
>>> annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional memory of the NomCom.
>>>
>>>  3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>
>>> 4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to allow them
>>> to accept a voting slot instead of the current non-voting slot
>>>
>>> Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes.  Only contentious
>>> issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judith Hellerstein
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com   Website: www.jhellerstein.com
>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/
>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6 months ago.
>>>
>>>     Julf
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Julf,
>>> Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I was told the
>>> time to have done this negotiation was several months ago before the GNSO
>>> rejected these ideas.  Sorry but I had not been focusing on these issues 6
>>> months ago.  The suggestion that was in the original public comment was
>>> what the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could decide for
>>> itself but apparently according to CLO, groups within the GNSO heavily
>>> resisted this change and that was why the board/ review committee took back
>>> part of the review. .  ALAC was for it and wanted to see this rebalancing
>>> but the review committee and Board got too much flack from people within
>>> the GNSO so they had to pull even this simple adjustment.
>>>
>>> Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the letter it is
>>> unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe the NCSG can take back the
>>> slot from the NCUC as the only reason it was not given to the NCSG was
>>> because NPOC and the NCSG had not existed when these slots were first
>>> created.
>>>
>>> I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the NomCom Review.
>>>   Has one been created.  If not, I can pass you forward the one myself and
>>> Yrjo are writing for ALAC. The only contested issue not decided is the
>>> definition of unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise, What
>>> I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Judith
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> judith at jhellerstein.com
>>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     --     *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>     Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>
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