[NCSG-PC] GNSO SSC - Naveed and Raymond

Jacqueline Morris jam at jacquelinemorris.com
Fri Oct 15 16:56:07 EEST 2021

Dear all
I agree that there are differences in position, and that will cause
conflict of interests.
There's also an issue from the ALAC side - ALAC members are proscribed from
holding certain positions in other stakeholder groups. I can't remember the
details, but it can be checked.
Jacqueline A. Morris
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 5:15 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>

> Dear all,
> Thanks Tomslin for bring this issue to the table. My apologies if I'm
> responding late. My family is blessed with a beautiful baby girl, so I've
> been trying to support couple with workload.
> I agree with Stephanie 100%. There is this syndrome in ICANN environment
> where people wear many hats belonging to different stakeholder groups.
> There abound conflicts of interest even if it is not glaring.
> I would say that we need to have a reasonable conversation with these
> fellows of possible issues that could arise wearing many hats in the areas
> of policy and branding.
> As a REP on the SSC, I confirmed what stephanie said. The role is non
> technical and demand less hours of participation. It requires soft skills
> with good judgment and evaluation skills. Although, it can get intense when
> having two to three assignments with a pressing deadline. However, it is
> something we can get our members to participate and experience.
> This community need people that are absolutely committed to non commercial
> objectives.This is a very sensitive matter and we need to manage it in a
> diplomatic manner that will prevent tensions and people digging out the
> ICANN charter.
> Regards.
> Akinremi
> On Thu, 14 Oct. 2021, 8:42 pm Stephanie E Perrin, <
> stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote:
>> I suggest you send it out to the list again, emphasizing that these
>> positions have a very low workload, no technical expertise required, just
>> the ability to make good appointment decisions.  Thank the two volunteers
>> for being willing to continue, but indicate that it is not really fair to
>> ask them to represent NCSG while performing key roles for ALAC.
>> Maybe someone will turn up if you beg.  I will work over a couple of
>> candidates.  Really, NCSG is going from beached whale status to rotting
>> carcass if we cannot get someone to perform this role.
>> cheers Steph
>> On 2021-10-13 3:30 p.m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>> Thank you Stephanie. I agree and it is my personal opinion too that there
>> is an inherent conflict of interest due to the tensions we've been having
>> with ALAC. But since there is no explicit guidance in the charter, I wanted
>> a collective decision by the PC on this. So I request members to express
>> their views please.
>> Tomslin
>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 04:42, Stephanie E Perrin <
>> stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote:
>>> Yes I think there is a problem.  I understand that there is nothing in
>>> the Charter that precludes dual representation.  However, we are in tension
>>> with ALAC in various areas, notably in their approach to the EPDP and the
>>> ACs' role in policy development.  This is an appointments committee....are
>>> ALAC representatives going to object to business members who are prominent
>>> in ALAC being chosen for roles? seems like a conflict of interest to me,
>>> one has to choose an allegiance and stick to it.  I am an ALAC NA member,
>>> but I do nothing with ALAC except try to promote better relationships with
>>> them, as long as I am performing in an NCSG role.  I think this is the
>>> appropriate response, obviously, but I would like to hear someone defend
>>> these reappointments on conflict of interest principles.
>>> We must be dying if we cannot find new reps for this committee.
>>> cheers Steph
>>> On 2021-10-12 3:58 p.m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>>> Dear PC,
>>> As you know, the GNSO Standing Selection Committee (SSC) is due for
>>> refresh as they do annually after the AGM. *Naveed Bin Rais* and *Raymond
>>> Mamattah*, two of our current representatives to the SSC, both of whom
>>> have been selected by the NomCom to serve as ALAC members representing
>>> their regions at the end of ICANN72 are also both eligible to serve a
>>> second term as NCSG appointed members to the GNSO SSC and are willing to.
>>> My question to you is, do you think their situation poses any conflict
>>> of interest to NCSG, noting that I can't recall any specific provision in
>>> our charter which prevents them from serving in both roles.
>>> Please let me know.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tomslin
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