[NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse

Wed Jun 30 18:46:23 EEST 2021

Thank you Tomslin.

I would be happy to do so.

@Bruna Martins <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> Can you confirm if we still have
enough time to get this done.

Regards

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:29 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Juan.
>
> I agree, everyone in PC should join this effort, so we can get a position
> quickly.
>
> Regarding the chair of the task-force, I don't mind doing it, but I was
> hoping that this will be an opportunity for members interested in
> developing leadership skills to do so. In that regard, I suggest the PC
> vice-chair, Akinremi chairs the task-force.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>
>
> On Wed., 30 Jun. 2021, 10:45 Juan Manuel Rojas, <jumaropi at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks both,
>> I agree with Tomslin proposal. I think we should move forward in order to
>> advance in our Task-Force to have at least a common definition about what
>> is DNS abuse for us. Maybe yourself as PC Chair, can lead us doing that or
>> maybe anyone who want to step-in to lead this effort.
>>
>> I think all PC members should be part of this discussion.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> El 29/06/21 a las 4:14 p. m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar escribió:
>>
>> Thanks Bruna.
>>
>> I think we should meet them sometime. However, it seems this meeting
>> being organised now will be a one-way update from them to us and we might
>> not have the input they seek in the meeting since the actions we promised
>> to do before we meet again, being (1) mapping other positions and working
>> definitions of DNS abuse across the ICANN community; (2) start drafting
>> a position paper: NCSGs DNS abuse working definition, concerns and
>> process, have not been actioned yet. So we'll be going to the meeting, not
>> having progressed from the place we were at the previous meeting. It
>> doesn't sound like a very productive use of our limited time, especially if
>> folks are required to wake up in the middle of the night.
>>
>> I suggest we make some progress on our side before we meet them again. To
>> do this, I suggest we appoint a chair to the NCSG DNS Abuse Task-Force, so
>> that we have someone responsible in driving progress on the two tasks
>> above. If we are lucky,  we might be able to have a position in a month and
>> then meet with CPH.
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tomslin
>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 00:38, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Heya,
>>>
>>> Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while ago
>>> inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still have four
>>> available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6 July, 13 July, 20 July
>>> or 27 July and the meeting would be scheduled at 1500 UTC.
>>>
>>> I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be interested
>>> in going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse group. Can you
>>> please reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?
>>>
>>> ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
>>> protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a look.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Bruna
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
>>> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
>>> Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
>>> To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org) <BCimbolic at pir.org>, Jim
>>> Galvin (jgalvin at afilias.info) <jgalvin at afilias.info>,
>>> lseufer at namespace.com <lseufer at namespace.com>, rlevy at tucows.com <
>>> rlevy at tucows.com>, secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>,
>>> secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bruna,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you’re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
>>> conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these sessions on
>>> Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled joint CPH DNS Abuse
>>> meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can adjust
>>> as needed...just let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC. If
>>> none of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to find an
>>> alternate slot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 22 June
>>>
>>> 29 June
>>>
>>> 6 July
>>>
>>> 13 July
>>>
>>> 20 July
>>>
>>> 27 July
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Drazek, Keith
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
>>> *To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>> *Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org>; Jim Galvin <
>>> jgalvin at afilias.info>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com>
>>> *Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Bruna,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you’re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am reaching out
>>> to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS Abuse Working Group as
>>> we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting outreach
>>> to our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse. As previously
>>> noted by the CPH, DNS Abuse
>>> <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
>>> comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets, and spam
>>> when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other forms of DNS
>>> Abuse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points, hear
>>> suggestions and identify common ground where we can work together to
>>> mitigate DNS Abuse.  Is there a subset of the NCSG focusing on DNS Abuse
>>> questions that would be able to join the CPH DNS Abuse group on a call to
>>> discuss this topic? We want to encourage frank and productive discussions
>>> on the topic that lead to really informing our dialogues and actions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide our
>>> discussion.  Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS Abuse
>>> levels?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are the NCSG’s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find helpful?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to join
>>> us.  Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.  If so, please
>>> propose a Tuesday when you are available.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith Drazek
>>>
>>> Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
>>>
>>> Verisign, Inc.
>>>
>>> +1-571-377-9182
>>>
>>> Kdrazek at verisign.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos  *
>>>
>>> Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
>>> <https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>
>>>
>>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>>
>>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>>> bruna.martinsantos
>>> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
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