[NCSG-PC] Input Required - Fellowship Program Mentor and Selection Committee Member
Tomslin Samme-Nlar
mesumbeslin at gmail.com
Thu Jan 7 21:59:37 EET 2021
Thank you @Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> for passing on
the response from staff while I was asleep.
The response confirms what Tatiana told us. Whilst I think the wording of
the announcement was a bit misleading, this confirms that NCSG will not be
nominating someone for neither the fellowship mentor nor selection
committee roles.
Thanks everyone for your timely input and discussion.
Regards
Tomslin
On Fri., 8 Jan. 2021, 01:34 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> @Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> apologies if I'm jumping
> ahead of you but I would just like to inform you all that staff has
> clarified this matter and both calls are closed for now. The one for SO/AC
> mentors is indeed the one in which Heather was selected and the one with
> the deadline this month. As I meant to explain previously, each SO and AC
> set its own procedures to select the mentor and fill one of the 7 slots.
> But the confusion also lies in the fact that there was a broader call for
> mentors - outside the SO/AC nominations - that was closed on dec 17th.
>
> I hope we can close this matter now and, next time, it would be better for
> all of us to look for the calls and Council deliberations instead. Tanya
> did explain Heather's selection here after all...
>
> best regards,
> Bruna
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:59 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Tatiana, please my answer below inline.
>>
>> All in all it is not a big deal, The Fellowship program is inviting SOs
>> to nominate one individual each (total of 7) to serve as a mentor and that
>> is what Tomslin’s email is about. Therefore, my concern is: are we going to
>> silent this call to the membership or should we share the information and,
>> the NCSG as a SG, could also attempt to nominate one person that the SSC
>> will consider?
>>
>>
>> Furthermore, following Tomslin’s email, you said that according to Action
>> item of the last GNSO Council, Heather was approved to serve for an
>> additional Term. But My confusion still holds. The action item is talking
>> about Serving at the Selection committee, while here we are dealing with
>> Fellowship mentors. Are they the same thing? Not clear to me. Even if it is
>> the same, it is still yet a GNSO Council decision, the NCSG or any other
>> SO/AC might have another candidate.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 Jan 2021, at 10:47, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Farell,
>> may I ask you where you see that GNSO is seeking to fill 7 positions?
>>
>>
>> Here there was a typo, sorry… see below please. The Fellowship Program is
>> requesting SOs/ACs to nominate one individual each. Are we, as a SG, going
>> to nominate one person or not?
>>
>> The GNSO call you sent says:
>> "The GNSO has been invited to nominate *one individual* to serve as an
>> ICANN Fellowship Program mentor for three consecutive ICANN meetings
>> beginning with ICANN72.
>> <…>
>>
>>
>> The ICANN Fellowship Program has invited each of ICANN's Supporting
>> Organizations (SOs) and Advisory Committees (ACs) to nominate *one
>> individual each (total of 7)* to serve in the capacity of mentor for the
>> Fellowship Program.”
>>
>>
>> This is the call for Fellowship Program mentors, seven individuals to be
>> nominated, probably not 7 positions to fill (select)
>>
>>
>> One individual from each SO/AC.
>> Total 7.
>> I'm puzzled as to what you all are confused about.
>>
>> That is quite normal. Something could be obvious for some people and less
>> for some others. Perception.
>>
>> People can apply individually for the second one because it's the process
>> of how GNSO selects people for the positions via SSC to fulfil the
>> requirements of the general call that was addressed to all SO/ACs.
>> But as I said, I am resting my case here, please ask staff for
>> clarification as suggested by many if my explanation doesn't suffice. I am
>> not sure any clarification is needed but I am certainly in a minority.
>>
>>
>> You don’t probably need clarification because you are certainly sure
>> about you know or have understood. Also when seeking for clarification or
>> explanation, it is not a matter of majority vs minority. According to the
>> call, if someone does not understand something, one can ask for question.
>>
>> Warm regards
>> Tatiana
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 10:18, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 Jan 2021, at 09:58, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at GMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah but what’s different exactly
>>>
>>> In your first e-mail you said that Heather Forrest is already
>>> appointed/nominated by the GNSO and then this file is closed, but (see
>>> below)
>>>
>>>
>>> — they are just different calls for the same purpose?
>>>
>>>
>>> But I do think that the file is not yet closed, since the GNSO is
>>> looking to fill up to 7 positions and Tomslin’s email to encourage NCGS
>>> candidacy is still valid in my opinion. *From your first e-mail I got
>>> confused for the fact that here was only one call and one position/slot to
>>> fill*. Sorry for misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>
>>> The GNSO call was issued to fulfil the requirements of the general call
>>> for AC/SO to appoint mentors and yes people applied individually and SSC is
>>> considering them right now. The deadline for individual applications passed
>>> and now the SSC is considering the candidates to meet the requirements of
>>> the general call to appoint the mentors until the end of January.
>>> But okay if it’s not clear to anyone but me please do go ahead and
>>> clarify with staff.
>>> Warm regards
>>> Tatiana
>>>
>>> On Thu 7. Jan 2021 at 09:35, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hallo Tatiana,
>>>>
>>>> As far as I am concerned, the confusion lies in this sentence:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - From this announcement
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2020-11-16-en> issued on
>>>> November 16th
>>>>
>>>> >> Interested SOs/ACs should select their respective Fellowship Program
>>>> mentor and Selection Committee representative by 31 January 2021 and notify
>>>> fellowshipconsultation at icann.org. Individual self-nominations will not
>>>> be considered.
>>>>
>>>> Which means that SOs/ACs have until 31 January to select Fellowship
>>>> Mentor and SSC Rep and notify, and self-nomination will not be considered.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - However, from this call
>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-03dec20-en.htm>issued
>>>> on December 3rd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> The GNSO has been invited
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2020-11-16-en> to nominate
>>>> one individual to serve as an ICANN Fellowship Program mentor for three
>>>> consecutive ICANN meetings beginning with ICANN72. The GNSO is hereby
>>>> opening a call for Expressions of Interest to solicit volunteers for this
>>>> position. Please see details below. To apply, fill out the Expression
>>>> of Interest form
>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/eoi-form-gnso-nominated-mentor-fellowship-03dec20-en.docx>
>>>> and submit it to gnso-secs at icann.org. The deadline for submissions is *17
>>>> December 2020 at 23:59 UTC.* Selection of Mentors
>>>>
>>>> The ICANN Fellowship Program has invited each of ICANN's Supporting
>>>> Organizations (SOs) and Advisory Committees (ACs) to nominate one
>>>> individual each (total of 7) to serve in the capacity of mentor for the
>>>> Fellowship Program.
>>>>
>>>> The GNSO is opening this Expression of Interest to solicit volunteers
>>>> for the GNSO-nominated mentor position. The GNSO Standing Selection
>>>> Committee (SSC) will evaluate the responses and make a recommendation to
>>>> the GNSO Council, which will review the SSC's recommendation and make a
>>>> final decision.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ======
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, it really looks like two different calls. And for the second
>>>> it looks like people could apply individually, and the SSC will make a
>>>> recommendation to the GNSO Council. For the SOs/ACs, a total of seven (07)
>>>> persons are required.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Farell FOLLY
>>>> GNSO Councillor
>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 Jan 2021, at 08:52, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Am not sure how it’s different from what SSC is doing now as the link
>>>> to the announcement of 16 November that Tomslin provided us identical to
>>>> what SSC page provides to explain what they are selecting now.
>>>> If you want to clarify with staff, I would of course go ahead but I
>>>> don’t quite understand where the confusion is coming from and what “the
>>>> call is open” means. The selection deadline for AC/SO is 31 of January, not
>>>> the application deadline. This is why SSC is dealing with this now because
>>>> the selection has to be confirmed by the GNSO.
>>>> Or are you talking about any other deadline?
>>>> Warm regards
>>>> Tatiana
>>>>
>>>> On Thu 7. Jan 2021 at 02:17, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree this one is quite confusing. The announcement, like Bruna
>>>>> said, suggests it is different from the appointment of Heather and what the
>>>>> SSC is currently working on especially since the announcement said
>>>>> individuals could not apply directly to GNSO for this one, and in addition,
>>>>> the call is still open.
>>>>> I guess the logical way forward is to seek clarification from staff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomslin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 04:20, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From what I have understood, there are two different calls with two
>>>>>> distinct deadlines. The GNSO level selection deadline has expired, however,
>>>>>> the SO/AC nomination is still ongoing. Otherwise, I don’t understand why
>>>>>> there are two deadlines and why Someone is already selected while the call
>>>>>> is still ongoing (end of January). Maybe some clarifications are needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nonetheless, Heather makes a good candidate for the GNSO anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Farell FOLLY
>>>>>> GNSO Councillor
>>>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 Jan 2021, at 17:39, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the clarification, Tanya! Then I guess this call is
>>>>>> settled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:33 PM Tatiana Tropina <
>>>>>> tatiana.tropina at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought for the fellowship selection committee members the GNSO
>>>>>>> has approved Heather Forrest to serve an additional term already. It was at
>>>>>>> the last GNSO meeting. Agenda item number 3:
>>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Final+Proposed+GNSO+Council+Agenda+17+December+2020
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards
>>>>>>> Tatiana
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 at 16:56, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for raising that Tatiana.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had to read through to see if it is not the same as GNSO
>>>>>>>> selection for the same task when it was shared. The publication did not
>>>>>>>> mention GNSO and that is why I think the call is different. Also, the
>>>>>>>> current task for the SSC did not include selection of Committee Members
>>>>>>>> but only GNSO fellowship mentor program.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe further clarification is needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:19 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The call announcement is a little confusing then, because it says
>>>>>>>>> *- Interested SOs/ACs should select their respective Fellowship
>>>>>>>>> Program mentor and Selection Committee representative by 31 January 2021
>>>>>>>>> and notify fellowshipconsultation at icann.org
>>>>>>>>> <fellowshipconsultation at icann.org>. Individual self-nominations will not be
>>>>>>>>> considered.*
>>>>>>>>> @Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> maybe you can check
>>>>>>>>> with maryam or GNSO staff. And thanks @Tatiana Tropina
>>>>>>>>> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com> for pointing that out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 10:59 AM Tatiana Tropina <
>>>>>>>>> tatiana.tropina at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> it's this call for nominations already closed? I know that SSC is
>>>>>>>>>> currently dealing with selections?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/GSSC/2021+GNSO+Appointed+Mentor+-+ICANN+Fellowship+Program
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The deadline for their EOI was in December I think?
>>>>>>>>>> Or is this something different?
>>>>>>>>>> Warm regards
>>>>>>>>>> Tatiana
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 at 14:47, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also support it, Tomslin. One suggestion: Might be useful to
>>>>>>>>>>> clarify on the call that the fellowship mentors are representatives of the
>>>>>>>>>>> SOs and ACs, so NCSG will make a nomination but it's up to the GNSO
>>>>>>>>>>> leadership to select this person and not NCSG alone.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 9:34 AM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>>>>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have nailed it Tomslin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is good to see adoption of the same criteria currently
>>>>>>>>>>>> being used for the selection process for the GNSO mentoring program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:38 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <
>>>>>>>>>>>> mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear PC,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was a request for SOs/ACs to select their nominee for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fellowship program mentor and a member for the fellowship program
>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection committee by 31st January. See
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2020-11-16-en
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is in this regard that I am writing to let you know I'll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting a call out for volunteers. The following are some criteria and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> skills I thought the right candidate should have. Can you please make any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions/comments regarding this by *23:00 UTC on Thursday
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7th January* so that we can send out the call soon after?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *For the mentor:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Active participant in GNSO structures and policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> development processes with a track record of engagement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Understanding of the ICANN’s mission, structure, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multistakeholder model
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Strong written and verbal communication skills
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Project management and coordination skills
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Networking skills
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ability to create a supportive atmosphere for mentees by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being open, accessible, and approachable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Willingness to devote the necessary time and resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the role
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Robust network within the ICANN community and ability to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> leverage and share that network
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ability to present information in a manner that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple and easy to understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ability to establish weekly projects and deliverables
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for mentees using a clear and consistent learning approach
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Explanation of interest in serving as an NCSG nominated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentor and what the mentor will bring to the Fellowship Program if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> selected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *For the selection committee member:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Active participant in GNSO structures and policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> development processes with a track record of engagement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Understanding of the ICANN’s mission, structure, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multistakeholder model
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Strong written and verbal communication skills
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Have some experience in candidates selection and review
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Willingness to devote the necessary time and resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the role
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Explanation of interest in serving as an NCSG appointed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fellowship program selection committee member.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tomslin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Taiwo Peter Akinremi*
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>>>>>>>>>>>> ___________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Taiwo Peter Akinremi*
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>>>>>>>> ___________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> @boomartins
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