[NCSG-PC] GNSO Council Chair and Vicechair election 2020

[Rafik Dammak]

hi,

it seems a NOT was dropped for my initial message, we don't need to decide
right now.
from my initial message
". first step will be to have call with Philippe to know him better for
those not in council and also asks him several questions.
to make it clear, this is just about the nomination for the election from
NCPH. It is not about deciding on the vote that will occur during AGM and
we will decide on that later when we hear about CPH candidate too. We need
to decide if we want to support the CSG candidate or if we believe we can
propose a candidate from our side."

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 4 juin 2020 à 13:30, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> a écrit :

> tl;dr - I think supporting Phillippe is probably the right choice in
> absence of a Chair candidate from within, but it is premature to make a
> formal commitment while our election is ongoing - and with the number of
> candidates, somewhat uncertain.
>
> I’m just an observer here right now - but until the NCSG elections are
> over, we do not know who will be voting in that election, and IIRC it is
> possible for councillors elect to be nominated? And as we don’t bind
> councillors normally even if we all agreed in the current NCSG PC, it is
> always possible a newly elected councillor could go ‘off script’ and want
> to be nominated, or just simply object to Phillipe for some reasons.
>
> To clarify I certainly don’t think this is likely nor am I aware of anyone
> even speculating about it  - but experience has taught me to be cautious
> about making agreements with CSG that not all are Councillors are
> explicitly committed to making. And if we make this a habit, then it is
> less likely to come back to bite us when it is an issue.
>
>  Once we know who are councillors are, as we do not appear to have a
> nomination for Chair from our own SG, we should tell CSG (and the house
> NCA) that we will support his nomination as candidate from the House, and
> make it *very* clear that that does not mean we support him over the CPH
> candidate, and we cannot determine that until we know who the CPH candidate
> is. Though we may know who the CPH candidate is by then anyway.
>
> But we need an NCSG process to ensure that we are ok with that, just in
> case some of us have significant doubts, and I’m not sure what that process
> could be that takes into account it will be a substantially different group
> of councillors.
>
> And after that, if Phillipe is even likely to be Chair ( and my impression
> he will be if the whole NCPH back him), then of course we need to have a
> Vice-Chair candidate, ideally to make agreement to an NCSG vice-chair
> candidate part of our negotiation with CPH, and we can’t realistically do
> that until we know who our councillors will be.
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2020, at 6:11 am, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> as you are aware, we received previous communication about Philippe as
> possible candidate for GNSO chair election. we got confirmation that he is
> now supported by the whole CSG. first step will be to have call with
> Philippe to know him better for those not in council and also asks him
> several questions.
> to make it clear, this is just about the nomination for the election from
> NCPH. It is not about deciding on the vote that will occur during AGM and
> we will decide on that later when we hear about CPH candidate too. We need
> to decide if we want to support the CSG candidate or if we believe we can
> propose a candidate from our side.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> De : <wuknoben at gmail.com>
> Date: mer. 20 mai 2020 à 05:32
> Subject: AW: GNSO Council Chair and Vicechair election 2020
> To: Stephanie E Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> Cc: Dean Marks <ed4coa at gmail.com>, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear Stephanie,
>
>
>
> I’m delighted to inform you that the CSG (BC, IPC, ISPCP) support
> Philippe's candidacy for GNSO Council Chair. Please let us know the next
> steps NCSG intends to take.
>
>
>
> Philippe is happy to reach out to the NCSG as you may wish.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Wolf-Ulrich
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Stephanie E Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 12. Mai 2020 17:29
> *An:* wuknoben at gmail.com
> *Betreff:* Re: GNSO Council Chair and Vicechair election 2020
>
>
>
> Thanks for letting me know Wolf Ulrich, I will let the others know.  We
> have a policy committee meeting coming up, we can put it on the agenda for
> discussion.
>
> Cheers Stephanie
>
> On 2020-05-12 10:36 a.m., wuknoben at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Dear Stephanie,
>
>
>
> I hope this finds you well. I want to let you know that the ISPCP
> constituency would like to put up Philippe Fouquart being nominated from
> our house as a candidate for the GNSO Chair election this year. Philippe is
> willing to serve and has got the commitment from his employer for the time
> needed to cover the job.
>
>
>
> Although BC and IPC over the next days formally have to consult with their
> responsible caucus I thought it might be useful for your own deliberations
> to be informed in advance. Following CSG approval we would then like to get
> into coordination with you and your respective NCSG colleagues.
>
>
>
> Keep safe, and best regards
>
> Wolf-Ulrich
>
>
>
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