[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] [Ext] Re: Action Item: Draft Response to Questions on the Independent Review Process Oversight Team (IRP-IOT)
Elsa S
elsa.saade at gmail.com
Mon Oct 7 18:38:48 EEST 2019
Any thoughts on this folks? It seems there’s pressure on adding WIPO on the
list. I probably will not have time for a call for this. But if anyone
wants to weigh in, I could potentially send an email with our discussion
points.
Thoughts are encouraged and appreciated from all,
E.
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From: Flip Petillion <fpetillion at petillion.law>
Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [council] [Ext] Re: Action Item: Draft Response to Questions
on the Independent Review Process Oversight Team (IRP-IOT)
To: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>, julie.hedlund at icann.org <
julie.hedlund at icann.org>, elsa.saade at gmail.com <elsa.saade at gmail.com>,
council at gnso.icann.org <council at gnso.icann.org>
Hi Keith,
All,
I still don’t read any substantiation in support of the allegations. WIPO
would not manage any IRPs but would merely stand ready to assist any ICANN
request for information on ADR generally and/or potential expert/arbitrator
selection processes.
Moreover, you may recall that IP is embedded in the Universal Declaration
of Human Rights (UDHR) and the United Nations Declaration for the Right of
Indigenous People (UNDRIP). I believe it makes sense to have a diverse list
of dispute resolution providers and to avoid any type of bias by making a
narrow selection before even starting the process.
As to WIPO, it is “the global forum for IP services, policy, information
and cooperation [whose] mission is to lead the development of a balanced
and effective international IP system that enables innovation and
creativity for the benefit of all.”
In my opinion, the list should include ICC, ICDR and WIPO as current and
past service providers of ICANN, and leave the option open to consult other
institutions.
I await the doodle invite.
Best regards,
Flip
Flip Petillion
fpetillion at petillion.law
+32484652653
www.petillion.law
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*From: *"Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek at verisign.com>
*Date: *Friday, 4 October 2019 at 21:26
*To: *Flip Petillion <fpetillion at petillion.law>, "julie.hedlund at icann.org" <
julie.hedlund at icann.org>, "elsa.saade at gmail.com" <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, "
council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>
*Subject: *RE: [council] [Ext] Re: Action Item: Draft Response to Questions
on the Independent Review Process Oversight Team (IRP-IOT)
Hi Flip,
Thanks for your email. I did not realize that there was a disagreement
within the drafting team (you and Elsa) on the point concerning the removal
of WIPO, prior to her request to remove it, and the finalization of the
comment. I will ask staff to set up a call among the leadership team and
the two of you for next week so we can try to resolve this. Please watch
for a doodle poll. We have also notified Samantha Eisner that we may need
to retract the current statement and will provide her an update next week.
Thanks,
Keith
*From:* council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Flip
Petillion
*Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2019 11:20 AM
*To:* Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>; Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>;
Council at gnso.icann.org
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] [Ext] Re: Action Item: Draft Response
to Questions on the Independent Review Process Oversight Team (IRP-IOT)
All:
Thank you for reviewing the proposed text and for the feedback presented.
However, I am compelled to formally object to the proposal to remove WIPO
as an expert due to a conflict of interest. To my knowledge, this conflict
has never been adequately explained or justified; nor has it been discussed
(neither with nor without the involvement of the parties concerned).
I had objected to this change before the text was submitted and that
objection went unheeded. As we are a working group of 2 and there is an
absence of consensus (in accordance with the GNSO Operating Procedures),
the appropriate course of action is for Council to discuss and determine
the disposition of the question.
So far, I have only read a vague suggestion of ‘removing those
[institutions] with conflict of interest given the nature of an IRP.’ This
is a rather serious accusation that has no apparent basis (and yet has a
material impact). I would therefore urge caution in removing a source that
is clearly a world expert in this area. Compounding the matter, I am not
aware of anyone following up on this suggestion at this point. No
organisation was identified as having a ‘conflict of interest given the
nature of an IRP.’ No explanation has been given as to the existence of an
actual conflict of interest. Furthermore, it is unclear what was meant by
‘the nature of an IRP’ in this context?
Therefore, I see no justification in removing a single dispute resolution
provider like WIPO from the list of institutions that may be consulted with
a view to preparing a standing panel. WIPO is an internationally-recognized
institution which duly reports to its Member States (its annual Assemblies
are in fact occurring this week), has neutrally and impartially operated
the UDRP (covering 45,000 cases) for more than twenty (20) years now to the
benefit of all ICANN stakeholders, which is trusted by over seventy-five
(75) national registries for their policy and case expertise, and which has
moreover led the way for ICANN in managing the LRO pre-delegation disputes
process. Furthermore, I see no basis for ICANN staff to decide unilaterally
to remove a provider from the list in a communication that is supposed to
be prepared by the GNSO Council and for which I hold leadership
responsibilities.
In order to rectify this situation, I see two options:
1. We revert back to the original text and, if necessary, have council
debate on the subject; or
2. The objection could be withdrawn.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Flip
P.S.: That said, I would suggest an additional change: that the GNSO
Council consider removing the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) from the
list, albeit for reasons unrelated to the subject above. To my knowledge,
ICANN has not previously engaged with the PCA. Asking them to assist now
may seem inappropriate unless we can provide compelling reasons to the
contrary. As far as I am aware, ICANN has not had any intention to rely on
PCA’s services, nor has it such intention for the future. During the last
council meeting, I did make this suggestion, but I am not aware of any
subsequent actions.
Flip Petillion
fpetillion at petillion.law
+32484652653
www.petillion.law
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*From: *council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund
<julie.hedlund at icann.org>
*Date: *Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 16:52
*To: *Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, "Council at gnso.icann.org" <
council at gnso.icann.org>
*Subject: *Re: [council] [Ext] Re: Action Item: Draft Response to Questions
on the Independent Review Process Oversight Team (IRP-IOT)
Dear Elsa and Councilors,
As the deadline for comments ended yesterday, 30 September, and Elsa’s
suggestion below is the only comment received, please see the attached
final version of the response reflecting the minor change suggested by
Elsa. This response will be delivered shortly.
Kind regards,
Julie
*From: *Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
*Date: *Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 9:12 AM
*To: *Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
*Cc: *"Council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>
*Subject: *[Ext] Re: [council] Action Item: Draft Response to Questions on
the Independent Review Process Oversight Team (IRP-IOT)
Hi Julie,
Thanks for resending this out! I just wanted to draw attention to the
external expertise mentioned in the text, and would suggest removing those
with conflict of interest given the nature of an IRP.
Best,
Elsa
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:17 AM Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
wrote:
Dear Councilors,
Per the action items below, please note in particular this one:
*Item 11: COUNCIL DISCUSSION - Draft Response to Questions on the
Independent Review Process Oversight Team (IRP-IOT)*
*Action items:*
- *Councilors* to provide input by *30 September 2019*. *Small team* to
address Councilors feedback, if applicable, and complete revised draft for
sending to ICANN org.
With respect to this item please review the attached draft response and
provide input, if any, by *Monday, 30 September 2019* according to the
actions.
Kind regards,
Julie
Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
*From: *council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Andrea
Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
*Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 8:22 PM
*To: *"Council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>
*Cc: *"'gnso-secs at icann.org'" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
*Subject: *[council] Action Items: GNSO Council meeting 19 September 2019
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