[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Late markup

[Wendy Seltzer]

On March 4, 2019 9:29:36 AM EST, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>I think it is likely they will accept none of my comments....too late. 
>But I will hold my ground.

Thanks Stephanie!

--Wendy

>
>Thanks for reading it.  Obviously my principal objection is that it was
>framed entirely the wrong way in the first place.  Plus an unnecessary
>review at this time.  But that ship sailed during the first meeting in
>Brussels, which I attended remotely (never a good option when you are
>the minority) because I had to go to the DPAs meeting around the same
>time to finish the ICANN report.
>
>Too much work, too few hands on deck.  However, the good news is we now
>have 9 members who are intimately familiar with the WHOIS fight, fresh
>from the EPDP, so we have more folks who can hit the many pdps that
>will have to resolve some of the issues mentioned under Anything
>New.....
>
>Cheers Stephanie
>
>On 2019-03-04 02:32, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>Thanks for this Stephanie, I have just reviewed your annotated version
>of the report and your analysis is excellent. You are more diplomatic
>than I would have been though! Please do stand your ground; I hope they
>do not just publish the final report ignoring your comments and instead
>seek to address them... but is there any possibility that they will do
>that?
>
>Ayden
>
>
>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>On Monday, March 4, 2019 7:00 AM, Stephanie Perrin
><stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>wrote:
>
>
>I sent the attached markup of the final RDS REview II to the review
>team.  I do not like the tone of the report, nor do I really support
>many of the recommendations, particularly the sections on Law
>Enforcement and accuracy.  One could tear apart the way the survey was
>done, the bias against privacy, etc.  I was alone on these issues, with
>occasional support from Volker.  I think he just gave up as this being
>shortly to be proven irrelevant.
>
>Anyway, here it is, for those with boring plane rides where they want
>to fall asleep.  I did not verify the correct transpostion of the
>appendices, nor the definitions.
>
>Cheers Steph
>
>
>-------- Forwarded Message --------
>Subject:
>        Late markup
>
>Date:
>        Mon, 4 Mar 2019 00:51:46 -0500
>
>From:
>Stephanie Perrin
><stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>
>To:
>RDS WHOIS2-RT List
><rds-whois2-rt at icann.org><mailto:rds-whois2-rt at icann.org>
>
>
>
>
>Attached is my markup of the document.  Overall, this document is
>impressive in its scope and research.  Basically, I think many of our
>recommendations are sensible.  However, the bias towards disclosure of
>information, the negative attitude towards the GDPR (which my SG
>applauds as exemplary effort to protect privacy and human rights), and
>the absence of any explicit recognition of the fact that our WHOIS
>practices already violated data protection law during the time of the
>past review are discouraging.  Not to mention the fact that the birth
>of ICANN coincided with the coming into force of the EU directive, and
>we have had plenty of advice from the DPAs over the past 19 years
>telling us how to fix it.   The push to continue doing what we have
>done since ICANN was born, regardless of changing risks, improvements
>in data protection, and the existence of many other ways to achieve the
>security and stability of the Internet, is discouraging.  I realize we
>had to review the recommendations of the previous Review team.  We live
>in different times, however, and the evidence of that impacting our
>review is not there.
>
>Given how many issues I have reservations about, I would like to make a
>statement, but I am not quite sure where it belongs.  I do not want to
>resist consensus, but I do want to register some frustration with this
>process and final result.  I do appreciate that I am a minority view
>and that you have tolerated my raising my comments and objections
>throughout the process.
>
>Stephanie Perrin
>
>Chair, NCSG

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