[NCSG-PC] Next NCSG Policy Calls

Wed Feb 13 21:01:27 EET 2019

Thank you Tatiana. I will send more soon.

Farzaneh

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 3:19 AM Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> As those points align with my position, I can certainly make them before
> voting yes — either tomorrow or on the GNSO call. I guess there will be
> time for expressing opinions. If this would be a consensus position of the
> NCSG, one of us can make a statement, as we did with Red Cross. I guess we
> have enough time to prepare a consensus statement before the GNSO vote, if
> necessary.
> Cheers
> Tanya
>
> On Wed 13. Feb 2019 at 09:12, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes I will send my thoughts but it is not a n NCSG   consensus position.
>> so just take them as a personal opinion for now
>>
>> It seems like the motion is to approve the whole report and then move
>> forward. So the easiest and most logical is to vote for the approval of the
>> report. I am not well versed in GNSO operating procedures, so I don't
>> really know if this is feasible but I would like to know if one of our
>> council members as well as saying yes to the approval could make some of
>> the following points:
>>
>> 1. The EPDP despite an unrealistic timeline achieved its goal and
>> delivered the final report(of phase 1). We are pleased with the outcome of
>> the group and our councilors have voted yes to the approval of this report,
>> but we would like to record our concerns with some aspects of the report.
>> Grateful, nice multistakeholder participation, thanks you,you are all
>> heros.
>>
>> 2. The registrants data elements that are a part of the data elements
>> matrix have expanded and include  "Additional data elements as
>> identified by Registry Operator in its registration policy ".Which can
>> be sensitive, personal information of domain name registrants. We have
>> raised this concern and emphasized that there is no reason to add or even
>> mention the additional data elements to the data matrix and no need to base
>> some of the purposes (such as purpose 7) based on this data. The
>> response that we received was that this provision and the related
>> purposes will not lead to the expansion of registration data elements.
>> This is not a satisfactory response.  we would like to register our concern
>> and warn the ICANN community and domain name registrants that registration
>> data elements might be expanded and include even more sensitive data, due
>> to this addition, that can be disclosed to third parties.
>>
>> 3.  Data protection should be provided for all domain name registrants
>> globally regardless of their location. Discriminatory treatment of domain
>> name registrants globally is not justified, especially as we are moving
>> towards disclosing domain name registrants data to third parties "globally".
>>
>> ---
>>
>> This is for now. I will send some more thoughts later.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:19 PM Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know that everyone in the team is extremely swamped, but for the sake
>>> of best representation, would the NCSG EPDP team perhaps be able to send us
>>> their thoughts prior to the Thursday meeting?
>>>
>>> I’ve personally been following the mailing list and developments,
>>> however, my position should also take into account the thoughts of the EPDP
>>> team members IMHO.
>>>
>>> Thanks again Rafik,
>>>
>>> Elsa
>>> —
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:08 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes there is council meeting in 14th Feb but the vote will be in
>>>> meeting of 21st Feb which is more important. Scheduling the NCSG call was a
>>>> timing issue and Friday is least worse option.
>>>>
>>>> I think the agendas of the 2 council meetings indicates the topics and
>>>> material. For EPDP, it is the final report. For IGO-INGO, the material are
>>>> the same like for the previous calls.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 06:01 Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for organizing this! I look forward to the calls. Just a
>>>>> question though, isn’t the placeholder council EPDP meeting this Thursday
>>>>> 14th?
>>>>>
>>>>> And if there’s certain material that we need to keep an eye out for
>>>>> more than others, it would be great to highlight them so that our
>>>>> conversation would be more constructive and efficient.
>>>>>
>>>>> E.
>>>>> —
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:13 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with regard to calls, I suggest:
>>>>>> 1- A call on Friday this week as update on EPDP and getting sense of
>>>>>> NCSG positions on the recommendations (we might need to vote recommendation
>>>>>> by recommendation based on level of consensus )
>>>>>> 2- A call next week Monday for NCSG Policy call as usual. The council
>>>>>> agenda for next week call is mainly about EPDP
>>>>>> so I expect we will cover mainly EPDP during the 2 calls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the 2 calls will be 90min each to no put more burden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le jeu. 7 févr. 2019 à 23:49, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as we are having 2 GNSO Council meetings and the delivery of final
>>>>>>> report for EPDP to decide on, I would like to propose:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - 1 call for EPDP update only next week, not necessarily before
>>>>>>>    the extraordinary meeting (we are not voting there ). that will helps us
>>>>>>>    for any position on consensus designation, voting at council level and
>>>>>>>    giving any relevant update.
>>>>>>>    - 1 call for the usual NCSG Policy call. I will suggest some
>>>>>>>    dates/times as I will be traveling in the week of 18th Feb.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another approach is just to have 1 call instead, maybe longer (2h30
>>>>>>> with allocating more time for EPDP update e.g.60 or 90min) next week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Elsa Saade
>>>>> Consultant
>>>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> Elsa Saade
>>> Consultant
>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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