[NCSG-PC] Next NCSG Policy Calls

Wed Feb 13 10:18:59 EET 2019

Hi,
As those points align with my position, I can certainly make them before
voting yes — either tomorrow or on the GNSO call. I guess there will be
time for expressing opinions. If this would be a consensus position of the
NCSG, one of us can make a statement, as we did with Red Cross. I guess we
have enough time to prepare a consensus statement before the GNSO vote, if
necessary.
Cheers
Tanya

On Wed 13. Feb 2019 at 09:12, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes I will send my thoughts but it is not a n NCSG   consensus position.
> so just take them as a personal opinion for now
>
> It seems like the motion is to approve the whole report and then move
> forward. So the easiest and most logical is to vote for the approval of the
> report. I am not well versed in GNSO operating procedures, so I don't
> really know if this is feasible but I would like to know if one of our
> council members as well as saying yes to the approval could make some of
> the following points:
>
> 1. The EPDP despite an unrealistic timeline achieved its goal and
> delivered the final report(of phase 1). We are pleased with the outcome of
> the group and our councilors have voted yes to the approval of this report,
> but we would like to record our concerns with some aspects of the report.
> Grateful, nice multistakeholder participation, thanks you,you are all
> heros.
>
> 2. The registrants data elements that are a part of the data elements
> matrix have expanded and include  "Additional data elements as identified
> by Registry Operator in its registration policy ".Which can be sensitive,
> personal information of domain name registrants. We have raised this
> concern and emphasized that there is no reason to add or even mention the
> additional data elements to the data matrix and no need to base some of the
> purposes (such as purpose 7) based on this data. The response that we
> received was that this provision and the related purposes will not lead
> to the expansion of registration data elements. This is not a satisfactory
> response.  we would like to register our concern and warn the ICANN
> community and domain name registrants that registration data elements might
> be expanded and include even more sensitive data, due to this addition,
> that can be disclosed to third parties.
>
> 3.  Data protection should be provided for all domain name registrants
> globally regardless of their location. Discriminatory treatment of domain
> name registrants globally is not justified, especially as we are moving
> towards disclosing domain name registrants data to third parties "globally".
>
> ---
>
> This is for now. I will send some more thoughts later.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:19 PM Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know that everyone in the team is extremely swamped, but for the sake
>> of best representation, would the NCSG EPDP team perhaps be able to send us
>> their thoughts prior to the Thursday meeting?
>>
>> I’ve personally been following the mailing list and developments,
>> however, my position should also take into account the thoughts of the EPDP
>> team members IMHO.
>>
>> Thanks again Rafik,
>>
>> Elsa
>> —
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:08 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes there is council meeting in 14th Feb but the vote will be in meeting
>>> of 21st Feb which is more important. Scheduling the NCSG call was a timing
>>> issue and Friday is least worse option.
>>>
>>> I think the agendas of the 2 council meetings indicates the topics and
>>> material. For EPDP, it is the final report. For IGO-INGO, the material are
>>> the same like for the previous calls.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 06:01 Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for organizing this! I look forward to the calls. Just a
>>>> question though, isn’t the placeholder council EPDP meeting this Thursday
>>>> 14th?
>>>>
>>>> And if there’s certain material that we need to keep an eye out for
>>>> more than others, it would be great to highlight them so that our
>>>> conversation would be more constructive and efficient.
>>>>
>>>> E.
>>>> —
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:13 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> with regard to calls, I suggest:
>>>>> 1- A call on Friday this week as update on EPDP and getting sense of
>>>>> NCSG positions on the recommendations (we might need to vote recommendation
>>>>> by recommendation based on level of consensus )
>>>>> 2- A call next week Monday for NCSG Policy call as usual. The council
>>>>> agenda for next week call is mainly about EPDP
>>>>> so I expect we will cover mainly EPDP during the 2 calls.
>>>>>
>>>>> the 2 calls will be 90min each to no put more burden.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> Le jeu. 7 févr. 2019 à 23:49, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as we are having 2 GNSO Council meetings and the delivery of final
>>>>>> report for EPDP to decide on, I would like to propose:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - 1 call for EPDP update only next week, not necessarily before
>>>>>>    the extraordinary meeting (we are not voting there ). that will helps us
>>>>>>    for any position on consensus designation, voting at council level and
>>>>>>    giving any relevant update.
>>>>>>    - 1 call for the usual NCSG Policy call. I will suggest some
>>>>>>    dates/times as I will be traveling in the week of 18th Feb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another approach is just to have 1 call instead, maybe longer (2h30
>>>>>> with allocating more time for EPDP update e.g.60 or 90min) next week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Elsa Saade
>>>> Consultant
>>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>>>
>>> --
>> --
>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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