[NCSG-PC] Proposed Letter to ICANN on PIR sale

Ayden Férdeline icann at ferdeline.com
Sun Dec 8 23:30:56 EET 2019


Observer

I consider it disrespectful to re-write a letter entirely from scratch, and to pretend that the concerns expressed in the original letter did not exist, particularly when the original letter had received support from some other NCSG members. But that is just my view. This is something I am leaving in the hands of the Policy Committee to resolve.

Ayden Férdeline

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Sunday, December 8, 2019 10:27 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se> wrote:

> Hello Ayden!
>
> It is a (policy) strategic question on how our SG can impose the minimum conditionality considered necessary to the ownership assignment to protect the interests of our constituents (assuming the buyer has the money, which in my view is the most questionable issue of the whole story). So, it is not about views. It is about what the NCSG can effectively do. So, if you have some idea about conditionality the draft has not considered, please let us know. It can only improve the letter.
>
> Cheers
>
> ---
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> carlosraul at gutierrez.se
> +506 8837 7176
> Aparatado 1571-1000
> COSTA RICA
>
> El 2019-12-08 15:20, Ayden Férdeline escribió:
>
>> Observer
>>
>> The second letter has been shared on the NCSG list for under 24 hours.
>>
>> I do not see how it reconciles or acknowledges the view(s) expressed in the first letter.
>>
>> But I will leave this to the Policy Committee to resolve.
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Sunday, December 8, 2019 9:26 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As you might know there is ongoing discussion in NCSG list about PIR sale by ISOC and what should be NCSG position. There was an initial letter which didn't consensus and now we have a second draft proposed as alternative under discussion and review.
>>>
>>> I am putting this so PC can consider the letter and hopefully we will get a final version soon. I understand we have to reach decision on timely manner
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
>>> Date: Sun, Dec 8, 2019, 09:46
>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed Letter to ICANN
>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>
>>> At this link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zfaTlkIUZEsNMOQljy43SQSXZUQBmgFSJYVnjGgpYp8/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> you can see a new proposed letter to ICANN. I have started from scratch.
>>>
>>> The main difference is that instead of screaming about the sale I am focusing on the conditions attached to the original award of .ORG to PIR. I am asking ICANN to recognize its obligation to ensure that those conditions continue to be met.
>>>
>>> Anyone with the link can comment. I hope this can gather quick support. I think we have wasted a lot of time and need to act quickly. If NCSG cannot act fast enugh I will publish it as an open letter to ICANN on the IGP blog, and accept sign-ons from anyone willing.
>>>
>>> Dr. Milton L Mueller
>>>
>>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>>>
>>> School of Public Policy
>>
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