[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Mar 23 00:02:50 EET 2018


fair points.

Any ideas on how to proceed?

SP

On 2018-03-22 17:22, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi ,
>
>
> I would be more cautious here, contracted trying to be too tactical 
> but there may be unintended consequences. We heard Goran many times 
> last talking about proposing changes to reviews but we have no idea 
> about specifics. Pausing may just lead somehow to less serious and 
> small in scope reviews in future with whatever ICANN wants to propose.
> Pausing without clear conditions for restart will be another SSR2 
> drama and playing into narrative that community cannot manage those 
> processes.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 6:10 AM Stephanie Perrin 
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Interesting.  DO we have a view on this folks?  I would not object
>     to putting the RDS review on hold. Far too much to keep track of,
>     notably GDPR and the Privacy proxy services IRT.
>
>     Steph
>
>
>
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject: 	Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO
>     Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>     Date: 	Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:26:35 -0300
>     From: 	Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>
>     <mailto:harris at cabase.org.ar>
>     To: 	'PAMELA LITTLE' <pam.little at alibaba-inc.com>
>     <mailto:pam.little at alibaba-inc.com>, 'Heather Forrest'
>     <haforrestesq at gmail.com> <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>, 'GNSO
>     Council List' <council at gnso.icann.org>
>     <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>, 'Austin, Donna'
>     <Donna.Austin at team.neustar> <mailto:Donna.Austin at team.neustar>
>
>
>
>     I support Pam’s suggestion.
>
>     Tony Harris
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>     *De:*council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org] *En nombre de
>     *PAMELA LITTLE
>     *Enviado el:* miércoles, 21 de marzo de 2018 0:55
>     *Para:* Heather Forrest; GNSO Council List; Austin, Donna
>     *Asunto:* Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO
>     Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>
>     In addition to bandwidth issue//and in light of//the discussions
>     around ICANN budget and GDPR at ICANN61, perhaps the community
>     should consider a deferral/pause of this review.
>
>     Also, see below excerpt of Goran's latest blog
>     https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61:
>
>     "...and for the RDS Review, there is still significant work
>     remaining to address the impacts of the General Data Protection
>     Regulation (GDPR) on the WHOIS system. Delaying either of these
>     reviews would save many hours of volunteer time. Additionally, and
>     more broadly, addressing the timing of reviews, and approach, will
>     contribute to discussing how to make future reviews more efficient
>     and more relevant. Deferring a review that will be impacted by
>     current Policy Development Processes or other outside factors,
>     could have significant savings on productivity and cost."
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Pam
>
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>         Sender:Austin, Donna via council <council at gnso.icann.org
>         <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>
>         Sent at:2018 Mar 21 (Wed) 07:34
>
>         To:Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com
>         <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>>; GNSO Council List
>         <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>
>         Subject:Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO
>         Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>
>         Heather, Susan
>
>         Where does this leave the RDS Review Team in terms of adequate
>         membership? I know Susan has raised concerns previously that
>         there isn’t enough people to do the work.
>
>         Is it possible for the GNSO to recommend additional candidates
>         to fill the vacancies left by the ccNSO’s decision not to
>         appoint volunteers?
>
>         Donna
>
>         *From:*council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org] *On
>         Behalf Of *Heather Forrest
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:51 AM
>         *To:* GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org
>         <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>         *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [council] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO
>         Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>
>         Dear Council colleagues,
>
>         Please note the ccNSO's affirmed position on RDS/WHOIS2 RT.
>
>         Best wishes,
>
>         Heather
>
>         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>         From: *Katrina Sataki* <katrina at nic.lv <mailto:katrina at nic.lv>>
>         Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:37 PM
>         Subject: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to
>         participate in RDS/WHOIS2
>         To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>         <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
>         Cc: Goran Marby <goran.marby at icann.org
>         <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>, Chris Disspain
>         <chris.disspain at board.icann.org
>         <mailto:chris.disspain at board.icann.org>>,
>         mike.silber at board.icann.org
>         <mailto:mike.silber at board.icann.org>, SOAC Chairs
>         <soac-chairs at icann.org <mailto:soac-chairs at icann.org>>
>
>         7 March 2018
>
>         To: Alan Greenberg, RDS/WHOIS 2 Review Team, Chair
>
>         CC: Chris Disspain, Mike Silber, Göran Marby, Chairs of ALAC,
>         ASO, GAC, GNSO, SSAC, RSAC
>
>         Dear Alan,
>
>         In May 2017, we informed the ICANN Board of Directors that the
>         ccNSO did not find itself in a position to nominate candidates
>         for the RDS/ WHOIS2 Review Team, and deferred participation in
>         this specific review.
>
>         On 18 January 2018, the ccNSO Council again discussed its
>         participation in the review. Following this discussion, by 16
>         February 2018, the ccNSO Council decided not to participate in
>         the RDS/WHOIS2 specific review.
>
>         The ccNSO Council thanks the volunteers who sought endorsement
>         of the ccNSO.
>
>         Kind regards,
>
>         Katrina Sataki,
>
>         Chair of the ccNSO
>
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