[NCSG-PC] Fw: [council] GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion paper

Thu Jun 21 16:37:55 EEST 2018

correction

> Hi,
>
> to clarify:
> - it is not the staff position paper shared in January (that one was NOT put
> for consultation but kick-off discussion during the council strategical
> meeting). It is a new report based on input we got from the Sunday session
> in San Juan, consolidated by staff and GNSo council leadership in April.
> - the consultation is for SG/C as groups to give input on that new paper.
> - while it is one topic in Monday GNSO working session, the council
> leadership will explain how and when to get input on that report.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 22:31, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> I never sought for this to be considered as an NCSG proposal; it was the
>> PC Chair who suggested that perhaps it would be better to have an NCSG
>> submission. But this is not a formal consultation; from what I understand,
>> ICANN staff are looking for informal input on their staff paper. Anyway,
>> they have been seeking input since January (on the first paper) and since
>> March (on the second one), and we have not prepared anything. I was only
>> following up to say, if we are not submitting anything as the NCSG (which
>> seems likely), just let me know so I can send in this feedback in my
>> individual capacity, as it's on the agenda for this Monday.
>>
>> Thanks, Ayden
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On 21 June 2018 3:27 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I thought you put this up to see if it can get approved by PC. If that
>> was not the intention and we don't have a comment and wording of what you
>> have cannot be changed, then I prefer not to discuss this as an NCSG idea.
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:24 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We don't have a comment; what is in the Google Doc is what I had planned
>>> to submit in my personal capacity. It can of course be changed if there are
>>> other ideas, but there have not been any other ideas or input proposed so
>>> far, and the document has been out since March...
>>>
>>> —Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On 21 June 2018 3:20 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ayden, The Google Doc link, is our comments?
>>>
>>> I am not sure about the idea, sorry. I don't see how it can improve PDPs
>>> and how effective it might be.
>>> If I get the time I will look over it again perhaps we can re-word it in
>>> a way that is acceptable to all.
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you so much Poncelet, I appreciate your comments!
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards, Ayden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On 21 June 2018 3:10 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ayden,
>>>> Sorry for late input, definitely brilliant either for the community to
>>>> chart its own course in professional development as per ICANN volunteerism
>>>> role.  Fully supported +1
>>>> Poncelet
>>>>
>>>> On 21 June 2018 at 12:56, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We need input then from other members of the PC. I have shared my
>>>>> input (on our list some weeks ago) and if there are no objections to it, I
>>>>> would like it to be taken forward to the working session this Monday. I
>>>>> think it is an important addition. There are likely other ideas that I
>>>>> haven't thought of too - if others have ideas please share them. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>> On 19 June 2018 5:18 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> SG/C leaders will be reached to see if/when the input is provided on
>>>>> PDP 3.0 and also inform them that is being on the agenda on GNSO working
>>>>> session on Monday. We may also add one session but that depends of the
>>>>> progress we will make on other fronts. The expectation is to get input from
>>>>> SG/C as groups not individuals at the stage. I think we can collect
>>>>> suggestions here and make a consolidated NCSG input.
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a google doc and uploaded the proposal
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13iQjVPy_yqfMu0jT3CrNu0WfHfyXLOWSMGaGb3PnnnM/edit
>>>>> in order to collect and consolidate suggestions for input on PDP 3.9. I
>>>>> also attached the report for reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> Le mar. 19 juin 2018 à 00:20, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Rafik,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any updates on this? If no extension is forthcoming I'll send in the
>>>>>> comments I shared here a fortnight ago in under my own name, just so they
>>>>>> are there and can be considered... I am thinking it is not outside the
>>>>>> realm of possibilities that we'll discuss PDP 3.0 in Panama?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>> On 12 June 2018 12:49 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is likely (quite high) there will be an extension.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2018 2:45 AM, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Rafik, looking forward to hearing whether or not an extension
>>>>>> is possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>> On 10 June 2018 2:35 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the deadline is flexible, I am following-up to get an
>>>>>> extension for all groups. Unfortunately, EPDP sucked most of the bandwidth
>>>>>> for everyone but we cannot drop that. as the topic is of interest for GNSO
>>>>>> council leadership, we count on getting input for the report. the
>>>>>> expectation is to get input from SG/C at this stage.
>>>>>> so we can work on NCSG comment in these coming days, hopefully prior
>>>>>> to Panama meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le dim. 10 juin 2018 à 05:16, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Rafik, I have identified one gap in the discussion paper, and
>>>>>>> have attached a suggested additional incremental improvement to 4.3
>>>>>>> 'Complexity of Subject Matter.' However given the time crunch, I am happy
>>>>>>> to submit this in my personal capacity, as I doubt we will have time to get
>>>>>>> an NCSG position together (given the deadline was yesterday)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> —Ayden
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>> On 5 June 2018 4:57 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the deadline for submitting any input is quite close, we can work on
>>>>>>> some input this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le sam. 12 mai 2018 à 06:52, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes, it is for feedback now. I encourage everyone to review the
>>>>>>>> paper. I am likely biased as I reviewed it several times, so fresh eyes
>>>>>>>> would be helpful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le sam. 12 mai 2018 à 06:33, Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think so...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steph
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-05-11 17:30, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should we respond as the NCSG?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>>>> On 11 May 2018 11:23 PM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>> <marika.konings at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sending on behalf of the Council leadership*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please find attached for your review the GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion
>>>>>>>>> paper. The Council leadership team has collaborated with staff in bringing
>>>>>>>>> all discussions and suggestions to date into one document for your and your
>>>>>>>>> respective communities’ consideration. We welcome input, particularly on
>>>>>>>>> section 4 – potential incremental improvements for consideration. In
>>>>>>>>> particular, which potential incremental improvements should be prioritized,
>>>>>>>>> are there any missing, are there additional implementation steps that
>>>>>>>>> should be considered? After receiving feedback, we hope to commence the
>>>>>>>>> development of an implementation plan proposing the when/how/who of
>>>>>>>>> implementing those incremental improvements agreed upon by the Council. To
>>>>>>>>> contribute to this next step in the improvements process we kindly request
>>>>>>>>> your feedback and/or that of your community by 8 June so that the Council
>>>>>>>>> can consider next steps during its meeting at ICANN62.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> GNSO Council leadership team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Marika Konings*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet
>>>>>>>>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Email: marika.konings at icann.org <marika.konings at icann.org>  *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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