[NCSG-PC] Fw: [council] GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion paper

Thu Jun 21 16:36:51 EEST 2018

Hi,

to clarify:
- it is not the staff position paper shared in January (that one was put
for consultation but kick-off discussion during the council strategical
meeting). It is a new report based on input we got from the Sunday session
in San Juan, consolidated by staff and GNSo council leadership in April.
- the consultation is for SG/C as groups to give input on that new paper.
- while it is one topic in Monday GNSO working session, the council
leadership will explain how and when to get input on that report.

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 22:31, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
écrit :

> I never sought for this to be considered as an NCSG proposal; it was the
> PC Chair who suggested that perhaps it would be better to have an NCSG
> submission. But this is not a formal consultation; from what I understand,
> ICANN staff are looking for informal input on their staff paper. Anyway,
> they have been seeking input since January (on the first paper) and since
> March (on the second one), and we have not prepared anything. I was only
> following up to say, if we are not submitting anything as the NCSG (which
> seems likely), just let me know so I can send in this feedback in my
> individual capacity, as it's on the agenda for this Monday.
>
> Thanks, Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 21 June 2018 3:27 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I thought you put this up to see if it can get approved by PC. If that was
> not the intention and we don't have a comment and wording of what you have
> cannot be changed, then I prefer not to discuss this as an NCSG idea.
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:24 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We don't have a comment; what is in the Google Doc is what I had planned
>> to submit in my personal capacity. It can of course be changed if there are
>> other ideas, but there have not been any other ideas or input proposed so
>> far, and the document has been out since March...
>>
>> —Ayden
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On 21 June 2018 3:20 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ayden, The Google Doc link, is our comments?
>>
>> I am not sure about the idea, sorry. I don't see how it can improve PDPs
>> and how effective it might be.
>> If I get the time I will look over it again perhaps we can re-word it in
>> a way that is acceptable to all.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you so much Poncelet, I appreciate your comments!
>>>
>>> Kind regards, Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On 21 June 2018 3:10 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Ayden,
>>> Sorry for late input, definitely brilliant either for the community to
>>> chart its own course in professional development as per ICANN volunteerism
>>> role.  Fully supported +1
>>> Poncelet
>>>
>>> On 21 June 2018 at 12:56, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We need input then from other members of the PC. I have shared my input
>>>> (on our list some weeks ago) and if there are no objections to it, I would
>>>> like it to be taken forward to the working session this Monday. I think it
>>>> is an important addition. There are likely other ideas that I haven't
>>>> thought of too - if others have ideas please share them. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On 19 June 2018 5:18 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> SG/C leaders will be reached to see if/when the input is provided on
>>>> PDP 3.0 and also inform them that is being on the agenda on GNSO working
>>>> session on Monday. We may also add one session but that depends of the
>>>> progress we will make on other fronts. The expectation is to get input from
>>>> SG/C as groups not individuals at the stage. I think we can collect
>>>> suggestions here and make a consolidated NCSG input.
>>>>
>>>> I created a google doc and uploaded the proposal
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13iQjVPy_yqfMu0jT3CrNu0WfHfyXLOWSMGaGb3PnnnM/edit
>>>> in order to collect and consolidate suggestions for input on PDP 3.9. I
>>>> also attached the report for reference.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>> Le mar. 19 juin 2018 à 00:20, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>> Any updates on this? If no extension is forthcoming I'll send in the
>>>>> comments I shared here a fortnight ago in under my own name, just so they
>>>>> are there and can be considered... I am thinking it is not outside the
>>>>> realm of possibilities that we'll discuss PDP 3.0 in Panama?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>> On 12 June 2018 12:49 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>>
>>>>> It is likely (quite high) there will be an extension.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 12, 2018 2:45 AM, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Rafik, looking forward to hearing whether or not an extension
>>>>> is possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>> On 10 June 2018 2:35 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the deadline is flexible, I am following-up to get an
>>>>> extension for all groups. Unfortunately, EPDP sucked most of the bandwidth
>>>>> for everyone but we cannot drop that. as the topic is of interest for GNSO
>>>>> council leadership, we count on getting input for the report. the
>>>>> expectation is to get input from SG/C at this stage.
>>>>> so we can work on NCSG comment in these coming days, hopefully prior
>>>>> to Panama meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> Le dim. 10 juin 2018 à 05:16, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Rafik, I have identified one gap in the discussion paper, and
>>>>>> have attached a suggested additional incremental improvement to 4.3
>>>>>> 'Complexity of Subject Matter.' However given the time crunch, I am happy
>>>>>> to submit this in my personal capacity, as I doubt we will have time to get
>>>>>> an NCSG position together (given the deadline was yesterday)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> —Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>> On 5 June 2018 4:57 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the deadline for submitting any input is quite close, we can work on
>>>>>> some input this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le sam. 12 mai 2018 à 06:52, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes, it is for feedback now. I encourage everyone to review the
>>>>>>> paper. I am likely biased as I reviewed it several times, so fresh eyes
>>>>>>> would be helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le sam. 12 mai 2018 à 06:33, Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think so...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steph
>>>>>>>> On 2018-05-11 17:30, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should we respond as the NCSG?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>>> On 11 May 2018 11:23 PM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
>>>>>>>> <marika.konings at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sending on behalf of the Council leadership*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please find attached for your review the GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion
>>>>>>>> paper. The Council leadership team has collaborated with staff in bringing
>>>>>>>> all discussions and suggestions to date into one document for your and your
>>>>>>>> respective communities’ consideration. We welcome input, particularly on
>>>>>>>> section 4 – potential incremental improvements for consideration. In
>>>>>>>> particular, which potential incremental improvements should be prioritized,
>>>>>>>> are there any missing, are there additional implementation steps that
>>>>>>>> should be considered? After receiving feedback, we hope to commence the
>>>>>>>> development of an implementation plan proposing the when/how/who of
>>>>>>>> implementing those incremental improvements agreed upon by the Council. To
>>>>>>>> contribute to this next step in the improvements process we kindly request
>>>>>>>> your feedback and/or that of your community by 8 June so that the Council
>>>>>>>> can consider next steps during its meeting at ICANN62.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GNSO Council leadership team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Marika Konings*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet
>>>>>>>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Email: marika.konings at icann.org <marika.konings at icann.org>  *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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