[NCSG-PC] Fw: Re: [Accred-Model] Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model

Tue Jun 19 06:34:15 EEST 2018

Hi,

ICANN seems late as usual for the announcement but my understanding is
there will be a proper consultation process for accreditation/access model
and no it is not centered around IPC/BC model. so we don't need to comment
on it. instead, we can propose an alternative model if we deem that
necessary and/or explore others that can be acceptable for us and tweak
them.

as Stephanie mentioned, the need for tiered access may be not warranted due
to the limited number of requests in practice. but I assume that ICANN
would go anyway to satisfy different groups.

Best,

Rafik

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 11:48 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> What do you mean? What kind of announcement might be coming, Rafik?
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 18 June 2018 4:44 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hold on, some announcement to be made today and so IPC/BC wont be our main
> concern
>
>
> Rafik
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 11:36 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I am of one mind. And this has always beeny approach. Any comment on this
>> from ncsg should be only a statement to the board warning them not to adopt
>> it and provide reasons and send a copy to wp29
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:30 AM Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I am also of two minds... this is why I am trying to get a blog out on
>>> the matter, prior to Panama.  We need to explain a few of the fundamental
>>> facts about accreditation.  I thought I would try to do that in a very
>>> basic blog.  Given the actual number of requests for data that the
>>> registrars are receiving (and that the ccTLDs have been receiving prior to
>>> this whole GDPR thing) the volume may not support a tiered access
>>> model....so I think it is more important to comment to ICANN more broadly,
>>> not respond to them.  On the other hand....guess who ICANN listens to, we
>>> may therefore need to get a direct attack on the record.  We should discuss
>>> this in Panama in my view.
>>>
>>> cheers Steph
>>> On 2018-06-18 10:24, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
>>>
>>> Ayden,
>>>
>>> thank you. I am of two mind about this - I don't want us to legitimise
>>> it anyhow, but not tearing it apart and not resisting it might do us more
>>> good than bad. We might stand on the position that the model has to be
>>> developed by the community (and in this regard this model has a major
>>> procedural flow), however, it means that we have to insist on the Council
>>> that the work on the accreditation should start urgently. I am afraid not
>>> everyone on the council would share the same sentiment - IPC/BC apparently
>>> could say they have a model proposal and CPH might potentially argue that
>>> they have other priorities. May be CPH could be convinced when they take
>>> into account Akram's position.
>>>
>>> I think we have to argue procedure-wise first without going into the
>>> content of this proposal - otherwise by fighting about the content we just
>>> somehow legitimise it more. Walking a thin line here, because they might
>>> try to advance it and push it forward - but the point that the major parts
>>> of the community had no participation and no influence on the content might
>>> play a role in declining this process-wise.
>>>
>>> Would be happy to hear further thoughts....
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tanya
>>>
>>> On 18/06/18 15:52, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>
>>> Thoughts -- do we legitimise this process by commenting, tearing it
>>> apart, or just pay no attention to it? It is a very problematic
>>> proposal.... I hope it is not being taken seriously anywhere, but given
>>> Akram's comments quoted in Domain Incite last week (i.e. we will have an
>>> accreditation model very soon as the community wants it), maybe it is...
>>>
>>> - Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On 18 June 2018 3:37 PM, Vayra, Fabricio (Perkins Coie)
>>> <FVayra at perkinscoie.com> <FVayra at perkinscoie.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please see attached version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model
>>> that includes tweaks to the second paragraph under the introduction in
>>> Annex I: Registration Directory Service Accreditation Authority (RDSAA).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and we look forward to your further input.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Fabricio Vayra* *| **Perkins Coie LLP*
>>>
>>> *PARTNER*
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>>> D. +1.202.654.6255
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>>>
>>> *From:* Vayra, Fabricio (WDC)
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 16, 2018 1:29 AM
>>> *To:* 'accred-model at icann.org' <accred-model at icann.org>
>>> <accred-model at icann.org>
>>> *Subject:* Version 1.6 of the Accreditation and Access Model
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attached for discussion and additional comment is version 1.6 of the
>>> Accreditation and Access Model.  This, following further comment and input
>>> from many parts of the community, is a much richer and robust model.
>>> Notably, this version 1.6 contains new:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Annex D: Accreditation Approach for Intellectual Property Owners
>>>    and Agents
>>>    - Annex J: Lawful Bases for Access to WHOIS Data
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks to those who made constructive contributions to further
>>> developing this model.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you again for your input and support.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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