[NCSG-PC] [new draft] NCSG Budget Comment

Tue Feb 27 15:55:21 EET 2018

Dear Ayden,

Sorry was to send this earlier, you have my support to submit.

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On 27 February 2018 at 14:51, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much for your review, Farell.
>
> I have now received expressions of support for the submission of this
> comment from Arsene, Martin, and Farell. Comments close in nine days time,
> but I would like to get this submitted by Friday if possible (provided
> there is support of course), as I will be in Spain next week.
>
> PC, please can you raise any concerns by Friday at the latest, or indicate
> whether or not you support the submission of this comment. Thanks again!
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 26 February 2018 11:44 AM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I went through the document and I like the contents as well as the
> structure. It emphasizes our essential concerns with strong rationale. I
> made some minor suggestions.
>
> Well done Ayden and all those who contribute to this. Have a nice week.
>
>
> Best Regards
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> On 26 Feb 2018, at 11:12, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Arsene, I think we are expressing the same sentiment albeit
> diplomatically, however I will allow Rafik as PC Chair to mediate and
> resolve this one.
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 26 February 2018 11:10 AM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> May I suggest something like: "We do not support the current suggested
> harsh cut on these programs but we request an assessment before any such
> decision can be taken". This is what i would like to see there. I am not
> that good in English so would suggest a rephrasing so it means this for me.
> If what is written there is the same as what i am sugesting, then fine with
> me. The current language on that one sentence is confusing for me.
> And i will leave this here for you guys to decide as a group.
>
> Thank you,
> Arsene
>
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> 2018-02-26 12:04 GMT+02:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> I feel like I'm responding to a carbon copy of Martin's comment - so my
>> answer remains the same! :-) The dictionary definition of 'rightsizing' is
>> to "convert (something) to an appropriate or optimum size." That's what we
>> are saying, and I think it is apparent if read in the context of the entire
>> paragraph and not that one sentence which has been extracted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On 26 February 2018 10:19 AM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I believe this is the section that is problematic in my view and needs to
>> be rephrased: "*We support the rightsizing of the fellowship and NextGen
>> programmes*." It means for me that we support the fact that those
>> programs are cut the way it is suggested in the budget. I don't think we
>> have consensus on this and we should not support, as a SG, the way these
>> programs have been reduced in number (by half or so). I may be wrong though
>> :)
>>
>> I think what we encourage, and what we have agreement on, is the need for
>> an assessment on the effectiveneess of the program and only after that
>> assessment, we can agree on the right action to take on it. This can lead
>> to a cut in number of attendees or anything else but we cannot say that at
>> this moment, before that professional assessment is done. And I believe
>> that's what we pushed for at Council level.
>> Other than that, i fully support the submission of this comment and would
>> like to thank Ayden and everyone for their participation. After reading the
>> comment, it captures everything we discussed and captures what we stand
>> for. As i always say, this is a good informational piece as well for us.
>>
>> ------------------------
>> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org/>*,
>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info/>*, *Mabingwa
>> Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com/>*
>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967>
>> GPG: 523644A0
>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
>> & Mexico
>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow
>> (Mauritius
>> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>
>> )* - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - Internet Governance -
>> Internet Freedom.
>>
>> Check the *2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC* report (English
>> <http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234>) and (French
>> <http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242>)
>>
>> 2018-02-22 6:42 GMT+02:00 Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
>> mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is all good for me, except for the same part I opposed at council level.
>>> I do not support the downsizing of the fellowship and nextgen by a blind
>>> cut with no metrics and debate to balance it out.
>>>
>>> If that is changed slightly like you did for the council to change that
>>> part, I will fully support.
>>>
>>>  Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 21 Feb 2018 21:22, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Ayden for the revisions,
>>>> I want to ask all PC members to review asap the draft for endorsment,
>>>> the deadline for submission is 2 weeks away and just before PR meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2018-02-22 9:14 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have revised the proposed NCSG comment on the FY19 budget:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tBia4z5QQFGz9vFUQUkS0lbZ
>>>>> NqU6C5n4pyUmlH3m8e8/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> It has not received very many edits or comments just yet. I hope it is
>>>>> on the right track.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>
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