[NCSG-PC] Auctions proceeds comment review (deadline 11th Dec)

[Martin Pablo Silva Valent]

I would understand if we have to be more open since this is a last, big,
minute change.

Martin

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 10:57 Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
mpsilvavalent at gmail.com wrote:

> I do support mechanism c.
>
> Best,
> Martín
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 10:52 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't think the point here is about we being convinced or not and so
>> defending our own positions (if for example, I say I am supporting option B
>> only?)). The few comments we got were supporting option B.  I see some
>> support here for option C on PC only. I am concerned about such change in
>> the last minute and. Previous wording offer support for the 2 options as we
>> don't have a clear consensus.
>> if other PC members support option C, they can weigh in and so that
>> clearly is in the record
>> @Martin @David sorry to re-ask as your responses are not quite explicit,
>> you are supporting option C?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le mar. 11 déc. 2018 à 18:41, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> I have yet to hear a strong reason for supporting Mechanism B - what is
>>> the rationale for it? There has not been a lot of engagement on the list on
>>> this topic either, so I do not agree that there is a consensus that we
>>> should be supporting that dispersement mechanism.
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 01:33, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> no problem with removing the part about access to funds.
>>> however, regarding the options, those who commented in the doc or in the
>>> NCSG list supported option B so I don't see how we can solely support
>>> option C only.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lun. 10 déc. 2018 à 19:38, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
>>> mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I have to agree with Ayden, the more shielded those funds are, the
>>>> better, is too much money and really needs to be used 1) only in a
>>>> financialy sustainable way, 2) in charitable projects. The 1) one is more
>>>> easily accountable, but the latter really needs as independent and
>>>> accountable process as it can get.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Martín
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 22:28 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Rafik. I have been further reflecting on this comment and
>>>>> believe we need to revise Recommendation #1 to take a stronger position. I
>>>>> do not support either Mechanism A or B, and would prefer to see us support
>>>>> solely Mechanism C. This is because an independent ICANN Foundation with
>>>>> its own, independent Board of Directors would be more accountable than
>>>>> anything Mechanisms A (utterly unaccountable) or B (weak accountability
>>>>> structure) can offer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also deleted an edit that said ICANN org should be able to
>>>>> access auction proceeds if it goes through a community consultation
>>>>> process. I do not support this at all, and think it contradicts the rest of
>>>>> our comment where we speak to how funds were supposed to be sequested for
>>>>> charitable purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>> On Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:49, Rafik Dammak <
>>>>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> with some delay, I could finally go through the draft and makes edits
>>>>> based on comments:
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XL_KZuzd9TD8w74mndklzpHLV37MYrJdGPbW5Ucn0ao/edit.
>>>>> I left the document on suggestion-mode to highlight the changes. I closed
>>>>> some comments that didn't lead to any change (you can still check them).
>>>>> the deadline for submission is the 11th December. please review the
>>>>> comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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