[NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Apr 6 03:46:29 EEST 2018
Agreed, excellent points Farzi.
Stephanie
On 2018-04-05 19:25, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> Thanks for articulating this; you both raise very good points. Agreed
> - let's only send this in to ICANN.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 6 April 2018 1:21 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Very good point. We should not submit to the email address they
>> provided. We can send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR
>> public comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment
>> analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the only
>> reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the rest of the
>> community know what we think about it.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes
>> lately, with regard to whom to send I don't think there are
>> mutually exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC,
>> Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address. no
>> problem here.
>>
>> but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or
>> de facto input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that
>> we will participate in their ad hoc process regarding the
>> accreditation model from now on? this is something we have to be
>> clear about when communicating with them,
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>>
>> The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the
>> GDPR address so that it is put on the web under community
>> feedback on models.
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>> On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly
>>> to winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>>>
>>> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>>
>>> Best, Kathy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>>>
>>>> stakeholders can provide written comments on the
>>>> accreditation model proposal to3amcomments at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:3amcomments at gmail.com>, with a copy
>>>> tointernet at winterfeldt.law <mailto:internet at winterfeldt.law>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a
>>>> little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>>>
>>>> Ayden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman
>>>> <kathy at kathykleiman.com> <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to
>>>>> Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which
>>>>> Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>>>
>>>>> /I can't seem to find that email address right now --
>>>>> would you happen to have it?/
>>>>>
>>>>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for
>>>>> final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc
>>>>> does not make indented citations easy :-). No more edits,
>>>>> please. I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>>>> I understand from the notifications from Google that
>>>>>> changes are being accepted, that work is still underway
>>>>>> editing this document and getting it into a submittable
>>>>>> state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we
>>>>>> sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with
>>>>>> Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman
>>>>>> <kathy at kathykleiman.com> <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated
>>>>>>> (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing,
>>>>>>> Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden’s
>>>>>>>> work, it looks good to go. I’ll add my comments if any.
>>>>>>>> So far, my full support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Martín
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>>>>> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some
>>>>>>>>> suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all
>>>>>>>>> are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text
>>>>>>>>> alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can’t think of
>>>>>>>>> what it is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak
>>>>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii
>>>>>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is
>>>>>>>>>> correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before
>>>>>>>>>> their meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on
>>>>>>>>>> suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it
>>>>>>>>>> went through)
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>
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