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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Agreed, excellent
points Farzi.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-04-05 19:25, Ayden Férdeline
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<div>Thanks for articulating this; you both raise very good
points. Agreed - let's only send this in to ICANN. <br>
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<div> On 6 April 2018 1:21 AM, farzaneh badii
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Very good point. We
should not submit to the email address they provided. We can
send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR public
comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own
comment analysis and their process. We have to make it clear
that the only reason we are making the comment is for ICANN
and the rest of the community know what we think about it.<br>
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<div>On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <span
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Hi all,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">while still reviewing the draft
as there were several changes lately, with regard to
whom to send I don't think there are mutually
exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC,
Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail
address. no problem here.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">but I would like that make
clear that by sending this letter or de facto input to
BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we will
participate in their ad hoc process regarding the
accreditation model from now on? this is something we
have to be clear about when communicating with them,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br>
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Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
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<p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx"
class="size"><span
style="font-family:Lucida Grande"
class="font">The whole process is
flawed, I think we should send it to
the GDPR address so that it is put on
the web under community feedback on
models. <span
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2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
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<p>It seems a little funny to send me
to send a copy directly to
winterfeldt law -- how about just
the first email address? <br>
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<p>Also, perhaps we should publish our
comment... <br>
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<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden Férdeline
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<div>They have asked that comments
be sent to:<br>
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<p><span
style="background-color:rgb(255,
255, 255)" class="highlight"><span
style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"
class="colour"><span
style="font-family:Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif"
class="font"><span
style="font-size:16px"
class="size">stakeholders
can provide written
comments on the
accreditation model
proposal to<span> </span><a
href="mailto:3amcomments@gmail.com"
style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px
solid rgb(187,187,187)"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">3amcomments@gmail.com</a>,
with a copy to<span> </span><a
href="mailto:internet@winterfeldt.law"
style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px
solid rgb(187,187,187)"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">internet@winterfeldt.law</a>.</span></span></span></span><br>
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<div>I hope all comments will be
publicly published. Feels a
little odd simply sending this
to a Gmail account.<br>
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<div>Ayden <br>
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Kleiman <a
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href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><kathy@kathykleiman.com></a>
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<p>Hi Ayden, Good question. I
think we should send it to
Cherine and Goran and copy the
email address in which Brian
Winterfeldt and his law firm
asked for "comments.' <br>
</p>
<p><i>I can't seem to find that
email address right now --
would you happen to have it?</i><br>
</p>
<p>All on the PC, I'm downloading
the document shortly for final
check of the citations and
formatting. Google doc does not
make indented citations easy
:-). No more edits, please.
I'll have this over to Rafik and
Farzi shortly.<br>
</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden
Férdeline wrote:<br>
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<div>I understand from the
notifications from Google that
changes are being accepted,
that work is still underway
editing this document and
getting it into a submittable
state. So I suppose now is the
time to ask, who are we
sending this letter to? BC
Chair and IPC President, with
Goran and Cherine in cc?<br>
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<div>On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM,
Kathy Kleiman <a
class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank"
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<p>Hi All, <br>
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<p>Tx to Ayden for his
excellent edits, now
incorporated (with a few
comments highlighting
proposed rephrasing, Ayden).
Tx also to Martin for his
review!<br>
</p>
<p>Back to the PC to continue
review...<br>
</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On
4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin
Pablo Silva Valent wrote:<br>
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<div>I am reading it now,
but between Kathy and
Ayden’s work, it looks
good to go. I’ll add my
comments if any. So far,
my full support. <br>
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<div>Cheers,<br>
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<div>Martín<br>
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<div>On 3 Apr 2018, at
20:38, Ayden
Férdeline <<a
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have reviewed
the document now
and put forward
some suggested
edits. Some are
substantive
changes but all
are in the same
spirit of the
original text. <br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>The formatting
looks a bit odd; I
hope the text
alignments can be
corrected prior to
submission. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think the
conclusion lacks
punch; but can’t
think of what it
is missing at the
moment...<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best wishes,<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ayden<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>P.S. Thanks to
those who drafted
it <br>
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<div>On Wed, Apr
4, 2018 at
01:24, Rafik
Dammak <<a
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi
Farzaneh,<br>
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<div>thanks
for this.<br>
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<div>I would
like to ask PC
members to
review it
asap. <br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Best,<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Rafik<br>
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6:57 GMT+09:00
farzaneh badii
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moz-do-not-send="true">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>:
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dir="auto">Hi
all <br>
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<div
dir="auto">Im
on a plane so
let me know if
the link below
is correct.
Kathy has
written a
response on
ipc bc <br>
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dir="auto"><br>
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<div><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G<wbr>84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA</a><br>
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dir="auto">We
need to go
through it
asap and send
it before
their
meeting. <br>
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<div
dir="auto">Please
comment
quickly and
make sure you
are on
suggestion
mode (i set it
that way not
sure it went
through) <br>
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