[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] Fwd: [soac-chairs] [Potential Spoof] Re: [Ssr2-review] Statement from SO/AC Chairs on the suspension of the Security and Stability Review

Tue Nov 14 15:34:52 EET 2017

hi all,

this is a follow-up of the discussion we had in AD about the SSR2.
I agree with Heather point about documenting concerns regarding the team at
least to be fair to its members that community appointed.

Best,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-11-14 10:52 GMT+09:00
Subject: [council] Fwd: [soac-chairs] [Potential Spoof] Re: [Ssr2-review]
Statement from SO/AC Chairs on the suspension of the Security and Stability
Review
To: GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>

Dear Council colleagues,

An update on the status of SSR2 and the involvement of the SO/AC leaders.

We (SO/AC leaders) received the emails below from Denise and SSR2 with
attached scoping document and skills matrix, and a request as to whether
this meets our requirements to "unpause" their work. We met a few hours ago
(our first call since ICANN60) to discuss.

My initial response to the SO/AC leaders was that I felt that we
collectively were now placed in a difficult position by the Board, as it
was the Board's requirements (the detail and extent of which are still only
specified at a high level) that occasioned the "pause", and now we're being
asked by SSR2 if their documentation meets the community's requirements.
While I acknowledge that SO/AC leaders collectively took responsibility for
re-starting SSR2 in our email of 2 Nov, in practice this is awkward, as we
have somehow assumed the Board's (and/or SSAC's) concerns. My view on this
was not shared by SSAC (logical, given their letter to Board re SSR2), nor
by ccNSO, ALAC or RSSAC (GAC not present on the call)- it seems these
communities have concerns about SSR2 but there is reluctance to document
these formally.

Concerns were raised by other leaders about the group's ability to work
together constructively. I haven't heard anything to this extent, so
insisted that, if this is the case, it needs to be documented.

The proposed path forward, which I generally support provided that it is
done in such a way as to preserve the integrity of SSR2, is to follow up on
their skills matrix with specific questions about what SSR2 participants
believe, if anything, the community can do (ie, add members to SSR2 to fill
weaker skill areas) to facilitate their work.

We're looking at a next call in one week's time, in order to get back to
SSR2 as quickly as possible.

Please take the skills matrix and scoping document back to your SGs and Cs
for discussion. If your groups believe it is helpful or appropriate to
provide input to SSR2, please do so directly.

Many thanks and best wishes,

Heather

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Denise Michel <denisemichel at fb.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [soac-chairs] [Potential Spoof] Re: [Ssr2-review] Statement
from SO/AC Chairs on the suspension of the Security and Stability Review
To: SO-AC Chairs List <soac-chairs at icann.org>, SO/AC Leadership List <
soac-leaders at icann.org>
Cc: SSR2 <ssr2-review at icann.org>

Dear SO & AC Chairs:

Please find attached a description of the SSR2 Review Team’s perspective of
the scope of this review, and a skill matrix developed and completed by a
majority of the Team. As requested, the SSR2 is completing these requested
items to “[resolve] the issues identified and discussed before and during
ICANN60 related to scope and skills.”

We hope this meets your requirements regarding the Review Team’s
perspective on the scope of this review and relevant, useful skills. The
current Terms of Reference for SSR2’s efforts up to the point of this pause
in our actions, including a detailed view of the scope of the review, can
be found here
<https://community.icann.org/display/SSR/Terms+of+Reference?preview=/64076120/64948210/SSR2-TermsofReference-CLEAN%20v4.0%20ET.docx>.
Additional information on SSR2 activities, including the work plan can be
found on the Review Team’s wiki
<https://community.icann.org/display/SSR/SSR2+Review>.

Please let us know if you require anything further.

We’d appreciate confirmation of receipt of this email and of the 4 Nov.
email (copy included below), as well as a response to our previous request
for information regarding the Team’s “un-pausing” (see below).

Regards,

The Second Security, Stability, and Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR2)

*From: *<ssr2-review-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Denise Michel <
denisemichel at fb.com>
*Date: *Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 12:16 AM
*To: *SO-AC Chairs List <soac-chairs at icann.org>, SO/AC Leadership List <
soac-leaders at icann.org>
*Cc: *SSR2 <ssr2-review at icann.org>
*Subject: *[Potential Spoof] Re: [Ssr2-review] Statement from SO/AC Chairs
on the suspension of the Security and Stability Review

Dear SO/AC Chairs:

As one of the co-chairs of the SSR2, I’ve been asked to share an informal
update on the Review Team’s work, and a query.

The SSR2 met Friday 3 Nov., addressed scope and skills as directed, and
then adjourned, since our work is “paused.”  Specifically, the Review Team
developed a skills matrix and a document clarifying SSR2’s scope/terms of
reference. These drafts have been shared with all Review Team members for
edits (not all participated in the 3 Nov. meeting), and we plan to finalize
and deliver them to you next week. (Note that SSR2 operates by consensus
and input from all Team members may necessitate a slight extension of this
schedule, or not).

The SSR2 would appreciate receiving information from the chairs on how and
when you will decide on “un-pausing” this review.  As you can appreciate,
the Review Team’s volunteers would like more certainty as to their
schedules. SSR2 previously planned a January face-to-face drafting session
for which time has been blocked on our calendars and travel arrangements
have been made. Please advise if we should cancel these.

Please let us know if you need anything else from the Review Team (cc’d).

Best,

Denise

Denise Michel

*denisemichel at fb.com <denisemichel at fb.com>*

*From: *Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se>
*Date: *Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 7:29 PM
*To: *Denise Michel <denisemichel at fb.com>
*Cc: *SO/AC Leadership List <soac-leaders at icann.org>, SO-AC Chairs List <
soac-chairs at icann.org>, ICANN Board <icann-board at icann.org>, SSR2 <
ssr2-review at icann.org>, Eric Osterweil <eosterweil at verisign.com>
*Subject: *Re: Statement from SO/AC Chairs on the suspension of the
Security and Stability Review

Your interpretation is correct. The goal now is to unpause SSR2.

Please not that I do not have posting rights to the SSR2 list, so the
moderated message must be released or forwarded by someone with posting
rights.

   Best, Patrik

On 2 Nov 2017, at 21:06, Denise Michel <denisemichel at fb.com> wrote:

Thanks for forwarding, Patrick.

Could the SO/AC Chairs please clarify the SSR2’s status tonight as the SSR2
is meeting tomorrow morning.

My quick read of this indicates that SSR2 is still “paused” except that the
Team is to address “resolving the issues identified and discussed before
and during ICANN60 related to scope and skills.”  That takes the work plan
and other items off the table.

Thanks for clarifying.

Best

Denise

Denise Michel

Sent via phone

_____________________________
From: Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se>
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 7:42 PM
Subject: Statement from SO/AC Chairs on the suspension of the Security and
Stability Review
To: SO/AC Leadership List <soac-leaders at icann.org>, SO-AC Chairs List <
soac-chairs at icann.org>, ICANN Board <icann-board at icann.org>, SSR2 <
ssr2-review at icann.org>, Osterweil, Eric <eosterweil at verisign.com>, Denise
Michel <denisemichel at fb.com>

STATEMENT FROM SO/AC CHAIRS ON THE SUSPENSION OF THE SECURITY AND STABILITY
REVIEW

The Chairs of ICANN’s Supporting Organizations (SOs) and Advisory
Committees (ACs) acknowledge the 28 October 2017 announcement from the
Board of Directors, pausing the work of the Security, Stability and
Resiliency Review Team (SSR2-RT), and the Board's having tasked the SOs and
ACs in sessions this week with addressing concerns raised by the Board,
Organizational Effectiveness Committee (OEC), and the Security and
Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC).

Collectively, we accept responsibility for getting SSR2-RT restarted as
expeditiously as possible. During various sessions throughout ICANN60, our
groups have met with the Board and/or members of SSR2-RT to hear their
concerns. We intend to continue to consult with our respective communities,
and each other, to assess and address issues relating to the scope,
composition and participation, resource utilization, and overall work plan
of the Review.

Additionally, the Board’s unilateral decision to suspend the work of a key
accountability mechanism has raised questions that go to the independence
of SSR2-RT, and specific reviews going forward. As a follow-on effort, we
intend to examine the selection and scoping process for review teams, and
develop a clear and predictable process for raising and addressing concerns
about review teams. We also intend to carefully consider the Board's
action, with a view to preventing similar instances in the future. We look
forward to working collaboratively with the Board, SSR2-RT and the broader
community on this task.

The SO/AC Chairs support the SSR2 RT meeting on Friday, 3 November 2017,
and followup telephone conferences when needed. These are necessary so that
the team can work on resolving the issues identified and discussed before
and during ICANN60 related to scope and skills.

Finally, we wish to acknowledge the efforts of our colleagues on the
SSR2-RT to date, and thank them for their continued commitment towards
security, stability and resiliency.

Alan Greenberg (Chair ALAC)
Patrik Fältström (Outgoing Chair SSAC)
Rod Rasmussen (Incoming Chair SSAC)
Katrina Sataki (Chair ccNSO)
Thomas Schneider (Outgoing Chair GAC)
Manal Ismail (Incoming Chair GAC)
James Bladel (Outgoing Chair GNSO Council)
Heather Forrest (Incoming Chair GNSO Council)
Tripti Sinha(Co-Chair RSSAC)
Brad Verd (Co-Chair RSSAC)

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