[NCSG-PC] Coming activities for PC

[Ayden Férdeline]

The moment we have such a procedure formalised, understandably, some are going to expect it be used every time. Now, they will not write comments, but they will use this procedure to criticise those who do write them. Watch and see...

—Ayden

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Coming activities for PC
> Local Time: 11 November 2017 1:33 PM
> UTC Time: 11 November 2017 13:33
> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>
> Hi Ayden,
>
> Thanks for the feedback, appreciated.
> for the first part the answer is yes, we need the operating procedures. it is requested by NCSG charter and it is something overdue we have to get done.
>
> the operating procedures don't need to be complicated but enough clear to give us guidance. The draft timeline is intended to give a proposal and some milestones for PC to observe. Not all of them must be followed e.g. the webinar. Also, the decision-making process is drafted separately. We also have a draft fthere or a fast-track process for comments and statements (inspired by what NCUC did) to get things approved when we have a time constraint.
> I don't think it is fair to say that a process failed after one unique trial (if it was). it can be improved and adjusted based on trial and error, we can follow an evolutionary approach.
> I am proposing to send a draft so it can be commented and adjusted based on comments and review.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-11-11 22:06 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Thanks Rafik. I hate to be the point of resistance here (and I realise that I am), but do we really need operating procedures in the PC? In principle I agree with the idea, and I like how comprehensive the previous draft was, but they also seem somewhat over-engineered to me. I tried following them earlier this year for our comment on WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law, and in practice, they don't work. I went through the ropes of organising a webinar (which almost no one outside of the PC attended), and went through four drafts of edits on list (comments were more philosophical debates than targeted and relevant to the statement). It was a lot of work, and I'm afraid to say, I don't think it made our comment stronger. If we do proceed with operating procedures I hope we make them simpler and more realistic. Otherwise, we can expect those who are obsessively focused on procedural matters to find fault with every activity that the PC does.
>>
>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Coming activities for PC
>>> Local Time: 6 November 2017 4:04 AM
>>> UTC Time: 6 November 2017 04:04
>>> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>> To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Hope you are recovering from Abu Dhabi meeting. I am sending this email to list several possible activities for coming weeks and planning for our actions as PC:
>>>
>>> Procedural:
>>>
>>> - Setting the new PC: I would like to ask Farzaneh as NCSG chair to send emails to NCUC and NPOC chairs in order to appoint/confirm their representatives to PC for the coming year. Elected councilors who just started their terms are members of the new PC, plus the NCSG chair as ex-officio. NCUC EC is going to be announced soon and I think they can do this in coming days.
>>> - After that, PC should elect its chair and possibly vice-chair.
>>>
>>>> from the charter:
>>>> "2.5.3. NCSG‑PC Leadership
>>>> A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG‑PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG‑PC membership on a yearly basis.
>>>> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>>> One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG‑PC on a yearly basis"
>>>
>>> - Resuming the work on NCSG PC operating procedures, I would like to share draft by next week.
>>> - Maryam will update the list of PC members in NCSG wiki space and GNSO pages, after new PC is set.
>>> - Reviewing NCSG appointments, i.e. GNSO Review WG since Avri our alternate rep joined the board and OEC and need to be replaced there.
>>> - agreeing on GNSO council calls reporting: that was discussed several times and we need to agree on who will volunteer for coming calls to draft the report and being reviewed by PC before publishing it in NCSG list.
>>>
>>> Policies:
>>>
>>> - Planning for public comments: I updated the list here with names of some volunteers https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2017 , we still need volunteers for some of them. the meeting strategy changes will be  published as public comment soon. the most urgent is the community resource (council is planning its comment but it is not supposed to supersede SG/C own comments)
>>> - Planning for intersessional and council strategic meeting: the agenda of the former is being discussed (there is an NCPH planning call next week). the agenda for the latter will be shared soon. to be effective and fully utilize those meetings, all attendess need to prepare beforehand.
>>> - Preparing for the GNSO council calls for the rest of this year and planning for NCSG Policy calls. I should get the agendas earlier.
>>> - Planning one-topic webinars: brainstorming about possible topics.
>>>
>>> please let me know if you are suggesting another activity.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
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