[NCSG-PC] [URGENT] NCSG Statement on the ALAC Review

Fri Mar 24 12:38:58 EET 2017

Dear Ayden,

Thanks for your comments, please I accept to be a signatory.

Kind Regards

Poncelet Ileleji

On 24 March 2017 at 08:32, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the edits, Avri. I have accepted nearly all of them, and
> commented in the document where I have not.
>
> I would now like to collect individual PC signatories [Observers are
> welcome to sign on, too].
>
> Unless I hear objections otherwise, I propose that if 2/3 of PC members
> sign on, this statement be adopted as the NCSG statement. If it is not
> adopted, those who express their support on the list now will be named as
> signatories, and of course non-PC members may sign on too. Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:00 am, avri doria <avri at apc.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I thank you taking on the thankless task of writing the first draft. As
> you know I had many issues with that first draft, and do believe I was
> specific about what those were.
>
> In any case, the rework Stephanie did has made it much easier for me to
> not object (i know i don't have a vote, just a voice). I have layered
> some more edits on Stephanie's revision. While I still do not agree
> with everything it says, I know that the things I have problems with are
> things others in the NCSG probably support and do not have an objection
> to them, though in some cases I have tried to make it a bit more
> diplomatic.
>
> I hope my suggested edits are acceptable.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 23-Mar-17 19:09, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> > The statement is still a work in progress, and is not complete. I will
> > continue working on it tonight, and encourage others to share feedback
> > on how they believe it should be edited so they are comfortable with it.
> >
> > Whether or not the PC endorses it is a discussion to be had tomorrow,
> > once it is in a more complete stage. Certainly I would hope an
> > endorsement was forthcoming, but if it isn't, I also understand that
> > is a possible outcome.
> >
> > If people would like to have a substantive discussion on the comments,
> > it would actually make it a lot easier to write so please feel free to
> > do so... :-)
> >
> > That said, if someone does not wish to endorse the comments, it would
> > be helpful to know specifically what within the text they do not
> support.
> >
> > Yes, these comments have been written quickly and there has not been
> > much time for discussion, but we do not have a documented process for
> > seeking the PC's endorsement and I have been on the PC for fewer than
> > 3 months. Until such time as there is a process, all I can do is
> > propose text in the hopes that others will jump in and offer
> > constructive thoughts on a different direction to be taken, if
> > applicable.
> >
> > Ayden
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>>
> > Date: On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:27 pm
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: [DRAFT] NCSG Statement on the ALAC Review
> > To: PC-NCSG <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org
> > <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>,Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> > <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>
> > CC:
> >>
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> I am conscious of the impending deadline for these comments
> >> (tomorrow). I recognize that Ayden has put time and thought into
> >> proposing comments for NCSG's consideration. This said, we have had
> >> no substantive discussion of these comments and their merit on the
> >> list or in the PC, nor have we had, realistically, sufficient time to
> >> do so. Because of this I do not feel that I, as a member of the PC,
> >> can endorse these comments for NCSG.
> >>
> >> The NCSG PC should have a better process in place for ensuring that
> >> there is time to do so in the future and we will, hopefully, be
> >> rectifying this promptly.
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23/03/2017 11:33, matthew shears wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello PC
> >>>
> >>> Teeing this up as comments are due tomorrow. Please review these
> >>> suggested inputs carefully.
> >>>
> >>> Related docs can be found here.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/atlarge-review-draft-
> report-2017-02-01-en
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Your thoughts/suggestions in the google doc (below) are appreciated
> >>> asap.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Matthew
> >>>
> >>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >>> Subject: [DRAFT] NCSG Statement on the ALAC Review
> >>> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:52:33 -0400
> >>> From: Ayden Férdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM>
> >>> Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> >>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Greetings all,
> >>>
> >>> I have drafted up on Google Docs
> >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-
> Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing>
> >>> some comments on behalf of the NCSG regarding the Review of the
> >>> At-Large community. This is a really rough draft, and I'd welcome
> >>> your feedback on what arguments should be refined, what I might have
> >>> missed, or what we might want to remain silent on. I'm not happy
> >>> with it at the moment, but I figured it would be better to get some
> >>> words down onto paper, and we can refine this together... so please
> >>> take a read of the proposed statement here
> >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-
> Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing>,
> >>> with the understanding that it's definitely a work-in-progress. And
> >>> please share your thoughts, either in the document itself or on this
> >>> mailing list!
> >>>
> >>> Comments are due in three days, so we don't have too long to get
> >>> this together unfortunately. You can read the draft report here
> >>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/atlarge-
> review-draft-report-31jan17-en.pdf> (PDF
> >>> link) if you haven't seen it already.
> >>>
> >>> /A friendly note to those ALAC members who read the NCSG mailing
> >>> list: this statement is a work-in-progress, it has not been endorsed
> >>> yet by the NCSG Policy Committee, and it will likely change between
> >>> now and the time it is submitted (if it is submitted)./
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>> Ayden Férdeline
> >>> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
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