[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] RDS Scope Guidance

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Feb 24 20:34:29 EET 2017


I don't see why not. I doubt anything will happen, but we will be on the 
record

stephanie


On 2017-02-24 00:33, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> are we ok with sharing the comments below to council list?
> please respond asap, the deadline is today 20:00UTC .
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-02-23 9:29 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
>
>     hi,
>
>     Thanks Kathy for the suggestions!
>     councilors have until 2000 UTC this Friday 24 FEB to suggest
>     comments or edits. so can we review the suggestions and we can
>     submit them to the council list as input from NCSG. please if you
>     have any other comments or suggestion, please suggest some wording
>     for the document.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Rafik
>
>     2017-02-22 22:40 GMT+09:00 Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com
>     <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com>>:
>
>         Tx you, Stephanie for cc'ing me.  I don't think this scope
>         goes far enough -- and I don't see any questions asking about
>         the protections for Registrants. We worked very hard in Whois
>         Review Team One to ensure that the inquiry was balanced and
>         that everyone knew that Whois investigations, disclosures and
>         compilations could hurt those Noncommercial Registrants and
>         others who use the DNS for free speech, free expression, fair
>         use and fair dealing and other forms of treasured
>         communication -- including speech critical to governments,
>         corporations, even ICANN!
>
>         Accordingly, I look at the list below and wonder (in red)
>         about whether it can be expanded to at least be balanced and
>         not completely one-sided in its review (e.g., how much can we
>         give those who complain (IP and LE)? */Q/**/uick note that I
>         have no idea how to take these suggestions to those who can
>         process them -- do you? Can you?/*
>
>         Best, Kathy
>
>              o
>
>                 Whether RDS efforts meet the “legitimate needs of law
>                 enforcement, promoting consumer trust and safeguarding
>                 registrant data.”
>
>               o Whether RDS effort protect the legitimate rights of
>                 registrants - individuals, noncommercial
>                 organizations, small businesses and others, in their
>                 right to communicate political, personal, research,
>                 hobby and educational ideas with the privacy granted
>                 under national laws and consistent with the best free
>                 expression traditions of the world.
>              o
>
>                 How RDS current & future recommendations might be
>                 improved and better coordinatedfor the benefit of all
>                 stakeholders.
>
>              o
>
>                 Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues and
>                 Implementation
>
>                   + How was the balance achieved in this long and
>                     painstaking Working Group? (with over 10,000 comments)
>                   + Has implementation under the direction of ICANN
>                     Staff and a much smaller team of volunteers
>                     fulfilled (or not) the goals of the PPSAI Working
>                     Group
>              o
>
>                 Compliance enforcement actions, structure, and processes
>
>                   + Where are the Due Process Protections for registrants?
>                   + Where is ICANN Compliance in ensuring that
>                     registrants know when their domain names are being
>                     investigated (e.g., ensuring that registrars
>                     contact registrants re: investigation in a timely
>                     manner and with information about how to respond,
>                     and if not ICANN handles this function)?
>                   + How does ICANN Compliance evaluate complaints for
>                     harassment and "bullshit factor" -- someone
>                     reporting something in the Whois record that does
>                     not impact the reliability of the data or the
>                     reachability of the registrant (e.g., a student
>                     not having a cell phone due to financial
>                     constraints, but otherwise COMPLETELY reachable by
>                     email, regular mail, etc.)?
>                   + How can a registrant appeal a takedown of
>                     his/her/its domain name by ICANN Compliance -- and
>                     even investigate the details (registrants are
>                     going in circles trying to understand how their
>                     domain names disappeared).
>                   + What steps can Compliance take to throw out abuse
>                     by those filing complaints? How can Compliance let
>                     the community know these anti-abuse steps are
>                     being taken?
>              o
>
>                 Availability of transparent enforcement of contractual
>                 obligations data
>
>              o
>
>                 The value and timing of RDAP as a replacement protocol
>
>              o
>
>                 The effectiveness of any other steps ICANN Org has
>                 taken to implement WHOIS Recommendations
>
>               o How have changes in law, high level court decision,
>                 adoption of data protection laws worldwide, etc,
>                 changed the legal framework of Whois and RDS data
>                 since the original Whois Review Team Report and how
>                 does this impact ICANN's work going forward.
>              o
>
>         On 2/20/2017 6:15 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>
>>         Please note this is our last kick at this can.  I really
>>         don't have much guidance; I don't quite understand exactly
>>         what we are going to study.....but I like the idea of 6
>>         months.  Copying Kathy who co-chaired the last one, she is
>>         most likely to be able to figure out if this will work....
>>
>>         Stephanie
>>
>>
>>
>>         -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>         Subject: 	[council] RDS Scope Guidance
>>         Date: 	Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:31:56 +0000
>>         From: 	James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
>>         <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>
>>         To: 	GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>         <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Councilors –
>>
>>         Attached, please find a draft RDS Scope Guidance document,
>>         which consolidates the feedback received from all SOs and ACs
>>         on guidance/recommendations to limit the scope of the
>>         upcoming RDS (WHOIS) review. Time is tight, so if you have
>>         any comments or edits, please respond by *2000 UTC this
>>         Friday 24 FEB.*
>>
>>         Once completed, the RDS Scope Guidance document will be
>>         distributed to RDS Review Team applicants, to confirm that
>>         they are still interested in serving on this review team.
>>         There is also a proposal to extend the call for applications
>>         until 7 MAR.
>>
>>         Thank you,
>>
>>         J.
>>
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