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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I don't see why not. 
          I doubt anything will happen, but we will be on the record<br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">stephanie</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-02-24 00:33, Rafik Dammak
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Hi all,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">are we ok with sharing the comments
          below to council list?</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra">please respond asap, the deadline is
          today 20:00UTC .</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-23 9:29 GMT+09:00 Rafik
            Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">hi,</div>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">Thanks Kathy for the
                  suggestions!</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">councilors have until 2000 UTC
                  this Friday 24 FEB to suggest comments or edits. so
                  can we review the suggestions and we can submit them
                  to the council list as input from NCSG. please if you
                  have any other comments or suggestion, please suggest
                  some wording for the document.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
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                      <div class="h5">2017-02-22 22:40 GMT+09:00 Kathy
                        Kleiman <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                            <p>Tx you, Stephanie for cc'ing me.  I don't
                              think this scope goes far enough -- and I
                              don't see any questions asking about the
                              protections for Registrants. We worked
                              very hard in Whois Review Team One to
                              ensure that the inquiry was balanced and
                              that everyone knew that Whois
                              investigations, disclosures and
                              compilations could hurt those
                              Noncommercial Registrants and others who
                              use the DNS for free speech, free
                              expression, fair use and fair dealing and
                              other forms of treasured communication --
                              including speech critical to governments,
                              corporations, even ICANN!</p>
                            <p>Accordingly, I look at the list below and
                              wonder (<font color="#ff0000">in red</font>)
                              about whether it can be expanded to at
                              least be balanced and not completely
                              one-sided in its review (e.g., how much
                              can we give those who complain (IP and
                              LE)?   <b><i>Q</i></b><b><i>uick note
                                  that I have no idea how to take these
                                  suggestions to those who can process
                                  them -- do you? Can you?</i></b></p>
                            <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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                            <p> </p>
                            <p> </p>
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                              <ul>
                                <li>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:0in">Whether
                                    RDS efforts meet the “legitimate
                                    needs of law enforcement, promoting
                                    consumer trust and safeguarding
                                    registrant data.” </p>
                                </li>
                                <li><font color="#ff0000">Whether RDS
                                    effort protect the legitimate rights
                                    of registrants - individuals,
                                    noncommercial organizations, small
                                    businesses and others, in their
                                    right to communicate political,
                                    personal, research, hobby and
                                    educational ideas with the privacy
                                    granted under national laws and
                                    consistent with the best free
                                    expression traditions of the world.
                                    <br>
                                  </font></li>
                                <li>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:0in">How RDS
                                    current & future recommendations
                                    might be improved and better
                                    coordinated<font color="#ff0000">
                                      for the benefit of all
                                      stakeholders. <br>
                                    </font></p>
                                </li>
                                <li>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:0in">Privacy
                                    and Proxy Services Accreditation
                                    Issues and Implementation </p>
                                </li>
                                <ul>
                                  <li><font color="#ff0000">How was the
                                      balance achieved in this long and
                                      painstaking Working Group? (with
                                      over 10,000 comments)<br>
                                    </font></li>
                                  <li><font color="#ff0000">Has
                                      implementation under the direction
                                      of ICANN Staff and a much smaller
                                      team of volunteers fulfilled (or
                                      not) the goals of the PPSAI
                                      Working Group<br>
                                    </font></li>
                                </ul>
                                <li>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:0in">Compliance
                                    enforcement actions, structure, and
                                    processes</p>
                                </li>
                                <ul>
                                  <li><font color="#ff0000">Where are
                                      the Due Process Protections for
                                      registrants?</font></li>
                                  <li><font color="#ff0000">Where is
                                      ICANN Compliance in ensuring that
                                      registrants know when their domain
                                      names are being investigated
                                      (e.g., ensuring that registrars
                                      contact registrants re:
                                      investigation in a timely manner
                                      and with information about how to
                                      respond, and if not ICANN handles
                                      this function)?</font></li>
                                  <li><font color="#ff0000">How does
                                      ICANN Compliance evaluate
                                      complaints for harassment and
                                      "bullshit factor" -- someone
                                      reporting something in the Whois
                                      record that does not impact the
                                      reliability of the data or the
                                      reachability of the registrant
                                      (e.g., a student not having a cell
                                      phone due to financial
                                      constraints, but otherwise
                                      COMPLETELY reachable by email,
                                      regular mail, etc.)?</font></li>
                                  <li><font color="#ff0000">How can a
                                      registrant appeal a takedown of
                                      his/her/its domain name by ICANN
                                      Compliance -- and even investigate
                                      the details (registrants are going
                                      in circles trying to understand
                                      how their domain names
                                      disappeared).</font></li>
                                  <li><font color="#ff0000">What steps
                                      can Compliance take to throw out
                                      abuse by those filing complaints? 
                                      How can Compliance let the
                                      community know these anti-abuse
                                      steps are being taken? <br>
                                    </font></li>
                                </ul>
                                <li>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:0in">Availability
                                    of transparent enforcement of
                                    contractual obligations data </p>
                                </li>
                                <li>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:0in">The value
                                    and timing of RDAP as a replacement
                                    protocol </p>
                                </li>
                                <li>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:0in">The
                                    effectiveness of any other steps
                                    ICANN Org has taken to implement
                                    WHOIS Recommendations </p>
                                </li>
                                <li><font color="#ff0000">How have
                                    changes in law, high level court
                                    decision, adoption of data
                                    protection laws worldwide, etc,
                                    changed the legal framework of Whois
                                    and RDS data since the original
                                    Whois Review Team Report and how
                                    does this impact ICANN's work going
                                    forward.</font></li>
                                <li><font color="#ff0000"><br>
                                  </font></li>
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                                  class="m_-6186496096156632395gmail-m_4458283681327192644moz-cite-prefix">On
                                  2/20/2017 6:15 PM, Stephanie Perrin
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
                                        Grande">Please note this is our
                                        last kick at this can.  I really
                                        don't have much guidance; I
                                        don't quite understand exactly
                                        what we are going to
                                        study.....but I like the idea of
                                        6 months.  Copying Kathy who
                                        co-chaired the last one, she is
                                        most likely to be able to figure
                                        out if this will work....<br>
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                                  <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
                                        Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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                                          <td>[council] RDS Scope
                                            Guidance</td>
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                                          <td>Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:31:56
                                            +0000</td>
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                                          <td>James M. Bladel <a
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                                          <td>GNSO Council List <a
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:11pt">Councilors
                                          –</span></p>
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                                          style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:11pt">Attached,
                                          please find a draft RDS Scope
                                          Guidance document, which
                                          consolidates the feedback
                                          received from all SOs and ACs
                                          on guidance/recommendations to
                                          limit the scope of the
                                          upcoming RDS (WHOIS) review. 
                                          Time is tight, so if you have
                                          any comments or edits, please
                                          respond by <b>2000 UTC this
                                            Friday 24 FEB.</b></span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:11pt">Once
                                          completed, the RDS Scope
                                          Guidance document will be
                                          distributed to RDS Review Team
                                          applicants, to confirm that
                                          they are still interested in
                                          serving on this review team. 
                                          There is also a proposal to
                                          extend the call for
                                          applications until 7 MAR.</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:11pt">Thank
                                          you,</span></p>
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                                          style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:11pt">J.</span></p>
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