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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I don't see why not.
I doubt anything will happen, but we will be on the record<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">are we ok with sharing the comments
below to council list?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">please respond asap, the deadline is
today 20:00UTC .</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">hi,</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks Kathy for the
suggestions!</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">councilors have until 2000 UTC
this Friday 24 FEB to suggest comments or edits. so
can we review the suggestions and we can submit them
to the council list as input from NCSG. please if you
have any other comments or suggestion, please suggest
some wording for the document.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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<div class="h5">2017-02-22 22:40 GMT+09:00 Kathy
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<p>Tx you, Stephanie for cc'ing me. I don't
think this scope goes far enough -- and I
don't see any questions asking about the
protections for Registrants. We worked
very hard in Whois Review Team One to
ensure that the inquiry was balanced and
that everyone knew that Whois
investigations, disclosures and
compilations could hurt those
Noncommercial Registrants and others who
use the DNS for free speech, free
expression, fair use and fair dealing and
other forms of treasured communication --
including speech critical to governments,
corporations, even ICANN!</p>
<p>Accordingly, I look at the list below and
wonder (<font color="#ff0000">in red</font>)
about whether it can be expanded to at
least be balanced and not completely
one-sided in its review (e.g., how much
can we give those who complain (IP and
LE)? <b><i>Q</i></b><b><i>uick note
that I have no idea how to take these
suggestions to those who can process
them -- do you? Can you?</i></b></p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<ul>
<ul>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">Whether
RDS efforts meet the “legitimate
needs of law enforcement, promoting
consumer trust and safeguarding
registrant data.” </p>
</li>
<li><font color="#ff0000">Whether RDS
effort protect the legitimate rights
of registrants - individuals,
noncommercial organizations, small
businesses and others, in their
right to communicate political,
personal, research, hobby and
educational ideas with the privacy
granted under national laws and
consistent with the best free
expression traditions of the world.
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</font></li>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">How RDS
current & future recommendations
might be improved and better
coordinated<font color="#ff0000">
for the benefit of all
stakeholders. <br>
</font></p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">Privacy
and Proxy Services Accreditation
Issues and Implementation </p>
</li>
<ul>
<li><font color="#ff0000">How was the
balance achieved in this long and
painstaking Working Group? (with
over 10,000 comments)<br>
</font></li>
<li><font color="#ff0000">Has
implementation under the direction
of ICANN Staff and a much smaller
team of volunteers fulfilled (or
not) the goals of the PPSAI
Working Group<br>
</font></li>
</ul>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">Compliance
enforcement actions, structure, and
processes</p>
</li>
<ul>
<li><font color="#ff0000">Where are
the Due Process Protections for
registrants?</font></li>
<li><font color="#ff0000">Where is
ICANN Compliance in ensuring that
registrants know when their domain
names are being investigated
(e.g., ensuring that registrars
contact registrants re:
investigation in a timely manner
and with information about how to
respond, and if not ICANN handles
this function)?</font></li>
<li><font color="#ff0000">How does
ICANN Compliance evaluate
complaints for harassment and
"bullshit factor" -- someone
reporting something in the Whois
record that does not impact the
reliability of the data or the
reachability of the registrant
(e.g., a student not having a cell
phone due to financial
constraints, but otherwise
COMPLETELY reachable by email,
regular mail, etc.)?</font></li>
<li><font color="#ff0000">How can a
registrant appeal a takedown of
his/her/its domain name by ICANN
Compliance -- and even investigate
the details (registrants are going
in circles trying to understand
how their domain names
disappeared).</font></li>
<li><font color="#ff0000">What steps
can Compliance take to throw out
abuse by those filing complaints?
How can Compliance let the
community know these anti-abuse
steps are being taken? <br>
</font></li>
</ul>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">Availability
of transparent enforcement of
contractual obligations data </p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">The value
and timing of RDAP as a replacement
protocol </p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in">The
effectiveness of any other steps
ICANN Org has taken to implement
WHOIS Recommendations </p>
</li>
<li><font color="#ff0000">How have
changes in law, high level court
decision, adoption of data
protection laws worldwide, etc,
changed the legal framework of Whois
and RDS data since the original
Whois Review Team Report and how
does this impact ICANN's work going
forward.</font></li>
<li><font color="#ff0000"><br>
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2/20/2017 6:15 PM, Stephanie Perrin
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">Please note this is our
last kick at this can. I really
don't have much guidance; I
don't quite understand exactly
what we are going to
study.....but I like the idea of
6 months. Copying Kathy who
co-chaired the last one, she is
most likely to be able to figure
out if this will work....<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Attached,
please find a draft RDS Scope
Guidance document, which
consolidates the feedback
received from all SOs and ACs
on guidance/recommendations to
limit the scope of the
upcoming RDS (WHOIS) review.
Time is tight, so if you have
any comments or edits, please
respond by <b>2000 UTC this
Friday 24 FEB.</b></span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Once
completed, the RDS Scope
Guidance document will be
distributed to RDS Review Team
applicants, to confirm that
they are still interested in
serving on this review team.
There is also a proposal to
extend the call for
applications until 7 MAR.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Thank
you,</span></p>
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