[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process
avri doria
avri at apc.org
Fri Feb 24 02:29:38 EET 2017
Hi,
I think we could respond that we do not accept their proposal
- NCA is not to removed from any part of the process
- we insist that there be a vote along the previous lines - 8 to succeed.
- as many nominees as come forward in a week.
- 1st round if one get 8 done, if not second round between top two
- 2nd round if one get 8 done, if not do 3rd round of leader against NOTA
- 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave seat open until we get our
act together.
- then CSG PC, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and NCA talk until we get
our act together.
avri
On 23-Feb-17 05:49, matthew shears wrote:
>
> Perhaps as a first step go back to CSG and say we are considering/or
> not their doc and will be proposing something or an alternative
> version - and put some deadline on it for us - maybe end of next week?
>
> And, try to get agreement on a nomination period - say next week? or
> two weeks from Monday? Probably would be useful to have the CSG and
> NCSG nomination periods run in parallel. Agree with CSG whether
> should be nomination and/or self nomination.
>
> In the interim start work on the process?
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 23/02/2017 08:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we really need to develop our response or proposal to CSG quickly. at
>> least covering the topic of nomination.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> thanks for the response, looking for other comments on this topic.
>> I think we can start with nomination whole we work on the process
>> and adjust the whole timeline.
>> how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for
>> now. shall we initiate a process to find other candidates? we
>> don't have so much time for a long nomination period.
>>
>> I understand that we are having the deadline as a mean to press
>> us but we should stand and be clear about the aspects which are
>> non-negotiable with regard to the process.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org
>> <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>>:
>>
>> Thanks Rafik
>>
>> Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it
>> and we are running out of time.
>>
>> First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which
>> was not really discussed further. Then we had some general
>> discussion about the need to do something on the Board
>> selection process. People voiced their views on different
>> aspects of the process and there was concern over the
>> timeline, but we did not really decide anything (others
>> please jump in as I may have missed some important
>> aspects). Markus announced he wanted to continue in the
>> role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG proposal
>> for a process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be
>> general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal.
>>
>> I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and
>> timeline for nominations and getting that announced, so at
>> least the initial stages of the process are underway.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>> On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on board
>>> seat election.
>>> First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what or not
>>> agreed on iceland on that regard from those who attended
>>> intersessional?
>>>
>>> We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points
>>> such as having vote, NCA participation and so on.
>>>
>>> I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our
>>> expectations.
>>> There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by end
>>> of this week but we do need to be ready.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Greg Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM
>>> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process
>>> To: <ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org
>>> <mailto:ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org>>
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We probably need a different mailing list to finish
>>> working on the Board Seat selection process, and a small
>>> group to do it, but I'll start here, since I think this
>>> is the only active mailing list with both sides of the
>>> NCPH on it.
>>>
>>> We basically have no time to work this out, and we've
>>> already started the process without knowing what it is
>>> exactly, since we have now received nominations.
>>>
>>> In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures
>>> previously circulated, I'm also attaching the following
>>> for consideration:
>>>
>>> 1. Some bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and
>>> NCSG representatives outlining a potential draft process.
>>> 2. The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a
>>> revised draft timeline and some relevant excerpts from
>>> Bylaws and GNSO Procedures.
>>> 3. A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section
>>> 11.3(f), which covers the selection process for Seats
>>> 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the Bylaws), and
>>> Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f).
>>>
>>> A few thoughts and comments:
>>>
>>> A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go
>>> through a process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks
>>> (just to go through). Talk about building the airplane
>>> in the air.
>>>
>>> B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible
>>> adjustments to the timeline, but did not come to any
>>> decisions. It's not clear to me whether Staff is
>>> preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask.
>>>
>>> C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we
>>> should put out a call for any other nominations ASAP
>>> (though it would be nice to know the end of the
>>> nomination period).
>>>
>>> D. Without making any judgments, the CPH process and
>>> the NCPH bullet-points are significantly different when
>>> it comes to voting.
>>>
>>> E. We should figure out how to get this process agreed
>>> as quickly as possible. Given the unusual
>>> circumstances, we don't need to use this process as
>>> precedent for any future process. We just need to get
>>> through this selection. One approach is for NCSG to
>>> respond to the draft sent at the end of the
>>> Intersessional. However, given the gap between that and
>>> the bullet-points, it might just be better to arrange a
>>> call/Adobe Connect session ASAP to move the ball forward.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but
>>> nonetheless, it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures
>>> were never updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline
>>> for naming the Director was changed from one month to
>>> two months (briefly) and then six months prior to being
>>> seated. (The GNSO Procedures will need to be updated in
>>> any event, since the Bylaws references are now
>>> obsolete.)) The draft bullet-points repeated this error.
>>>
>>> B. Since we are doing this with very little time
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Greg Shatan
>>> *C: 917-816-6428
>>> S: gsshatan
>>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428
>>> gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: *Greg Shatan* <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM
>>> Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection Process
>>> To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org
>>> <mailto:ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants,
>>>
>>> The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed
>>> interim Board Selection Process based closely on the
>>> Final Process adopted by the Contracted Parties House.
>>> Clean and marked drafts are attached, showing changes
>>> from the CPH document.
>>>
>>> A Google Docs version can be found here, where any
>>> suggested changes can be added in "suggest" mode (but
>>> everyone has "edit"
>>> rights): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>
>>> We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board
>>> Seat process and then revisit afterward before making it
>>> a permanent rather than "interim" process.
>>>
>>> This has not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC,
>>> BC and ISPCP, but we wanted to start the discussion on
>>> this basis, given the short amount of time we have for
>>> this year.
>>>
>>> We look forward to your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams)
>>>
>>> *Greg Shatan
>>> *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:%28917%29%20816-6428>
>>> S: gsshatan
>>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <tel:%28646%29%20845-9428>
>>> gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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