[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] Standing Selection Committee

Thu Feb 9 23:21:01 EET 2017

Hi Rafik,

 Thanks for this. Two major issues:

 1. One is the usual Constituency versus Stakeholder Group debate.

 Who should be on the Selection Committee? There was consensus that the 
GNSO Council Chairs and Vice Chairs should be on the Committee. Then we 
differed.

 One view, which was the majority, opined that each Constituency should be 
represented. This view was supported by Susan Kawaguchi of the BC and 
Heather Forrest of the IPC. Under this system the CSG would have 3 reps, 
the NCSG 2, the RySG and RrSG 1 each, along with the Council Chair and Vice 
Chairs. The reps themselves would be appointed by the Constituencies on the 
NCPH side. 

 My view was we should honor the GNSO structure and have 1 rep from each of 
the Stakeholder Groups along with the leadership team. Under this system 
the CSG, NCSG, RySG and RrSg would each have 1 rep who would serve 
alongside the leadership team.

 The full Council has been delegated to decide which option to chose.

 The SSR was a learning experience for me. This was the most difficult and 
time consuming activity I've done at ICANN. Not to say I didn't value it - 
it probably fits my skill set better than other things I've done here and 
I'm happy with the outcome from a NCSG perspective - but I just don't see a 
large group being very effective doing the initial vetting. Everyone on the 
team needs to be committed to doing the substantial and detailed work and I 
believe that's more likely to happen with a smaller group.

 For reasons of equitable representation and the utility of smaller groups 
I certainly would encourage support for the SG option. In fact, I think it 
is absolutely essential from a NCSG perspective. 

 2. The initial proposal made by Susan and myself included a rotation 
system for appointees. This consisted of two parts:

 1. For review teams, the top three endorsees should be from three separate 
SG's (assuming a sufficient number of applications), and

 2. For review teams, the SG that did not have  candidate endorsed in the 
top three (which are guaranteed appointments) would, by right, have a 
candidate endorsed for the next DT in one of the top three places.

 This was changed by staff into a general diversity requirement and was 
approved by the Committee at a meeting with 40 per cent attendance. There 
was conversation about weakening the requirement somewhat in the previous 
meeting but I did not expect anything like this.

 I believe this requirement to be fundamental and essential. NCSG 
candidates often have skill sets a bit different than others. In the SSR2 
RT the GNSO endorsed James as a guaranteed SSR2 member and Naveed as 
someone we would propose for further consideration. If we strictly applied 
the skill set contained in the Call for Application neither would have been 
selected.

 In fact, staff included neither of our candidates in their top seven 
ranking. Both, IMHO, would be excellent SSR2 members but James was 
perceived to lack specific desirable educational attributes and Naveed, a 
man with impeccable academic qualifications, had no direct experience in 
"corporate security".

 We're the NCSG. Many of our members lack corporate anything. If that, and 
other requirements favouring industry professionals,  are going to be a 
strict requirements for other RT's and the SG rotation is eliminated our 
Members may have some difficulty being selected. I believe a strong 
rotation is in the interest of both the NCSG and the GNSO.

 I'll be very happy to talk about all of this on the call tomorrow. I 
believe in an inclusive GNSO, one that recognises the diversity of the SO 
and guarantees all a place at the table for all SG's on these important 
RT's. 

 Susan and I have agreed to meet in Reykjavik with the goal of jointly 
drafting language that would reinstate in some form the rotation concept, 
and posting it to the Council list prior to the Council meeting on the 
16th, so the matter may be considered by the entire Council.

 Kind Regards,

 Ed Morris

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 From: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 11:54 AM
To: "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net>
Cc: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] Standing Selection Committee   
  Dear Ed,

 Thanks for sharing this and raising your concerns. I think the selection 
process is definitely a topic for discussion at the policy call.
 can you list quickly the concerns you have prior to the call? I think some 
changes are editorial but I saw that several paragraphs on page 6 and 7 
were removed which are related to decision making.

 Best,

 Rafik
  2017-02-07 13:20 GMT+09:00 Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>:     Hi 
everybody,

 I hope we can discuss this on our policy committee call later this week 
and in other meetings before our February 16th Council call.

 The Standing Selection Committee met tonight in reduced fashion: due to 
technical problems and conflicting commitments only two of the five team 
members attended the entire call. Changes, based upon staff 
recommendations, have been made to the initial proposal and I don't believe 
these changes are in the interest of the NCSG. Hopefully we'll have time to 
talk about things and come out with a common position going forward. 

 Overall I think this is a good proposal but we do have work to do on the 
full Council. I look forward to discussing things with everyone, 
particularly my fellow Councillors, on Friday.

 Best,

 Ed Morris 

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Begin forwarded message:

  From: Susan Kawaguchi <susank at fb.com>
Date: 7 February 2017 at 03:17:30 GMT
To: GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
Subject: [council] Standing Selection Committee

Hello All,  

Please see the attached draft charter for the proposed Standing Selection 
Committee.  This committee would be composed of councilors to select 
candidates for review teams and other positions.  

We will discuss next week at the council meeting.  

Best regards,  

Susan 

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