[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Replacement and Removal of Members

[matthew shears]

Totally agree with your note stephanie

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From: Stephanie Perrin<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
Sent: 28 August 2017 16:18
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Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Replacement and Removal of Members


I just sent the following to the list, got a fist bump from volker who must have been telepathically connected since he was sending a longer version expressing reservations.  I understand James' point about needing procedures for removing disruptive members, but this needs to be seriously circumscribed, in my experience.  They would have loved to remove me from the EWG.

cheers Steph


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Subject:        Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Replacement and Removal of Members
Date:   Mon, 28 Aug 2017 11:00:22 -0400
From:   Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
To:     rds-whois2-rt at icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-rt at icann.org>



I do think that we should define "disruptive".  I have been a minority viewpoint on many committees here now, largely because I remind people of how data protection law is drafted, implemented and further defined in policy.  Given the contentious nature of the WHOIS debates, that has been a very lonely position, but since I appear to have been the only person with any actual experience in these matters on several of those committees, I am quite unrepentant. ICANN has a long history of ignoring the privacy perspective.  It would not be hard to find 50% of people who would like to get rid of me, just to speed things up and not be bothered with the facts/alternate view.  I think if we don't define "disruptive", we at least need to make it a larger majority of members, so I support Erika's suggestion of 70%.

Stephanie Perrin

On 2017-08-27 19:43, SUN Lili wrote:

Dear Alan,
Thanks for sharing the proposed text.
I'm fine with the first paragraph. For the second paragraph, I believe the disputing part will be how to define "disruptive", a 50% team member's request for removal will be persuasive. I was just wondering the meaning that "the member fails to resign", would it be better to change it to "the member refuses to resign"?
For your and other team member's consideration.
Thanks and regards,
Lili

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From: rds-whois2-rt-bounces at icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-rt-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:rds-whois2-rt-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
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Subject: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Replacement and Removal of Members

I was asked to propose wording for the section of the Terms of Reference on Replacement and Removal of Members

I would like to propose the following wording for the consideration of the RT.

Alan

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If a Review Team member is no longer able or willing to serve, or if an SO/AC withdraws its endorsement of the member, the SO/AC making the original endorsement will be requested to refill the position with a replacement member. The SO/AC will make the selection according to their own processes and will not be bound to consider only those candidates who originally applied requesting their endorsement.

If a Review Team member is sufficiently inactive or disruptive as to cause at least 50% of Review Team members (excluding the member in
question) to request their removal, the member will be asked to resign. If the member fails to resign, the SO/AC that endorsed the member will be requested to withdraw their endorsement and replace the member. Should the SO/AC not take action, the member can be removed by a 2/3 majority vote of the remaining Review Team members.
In all cases, the balloting will be carried out in such a way as to not reveal how individual members voted.

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