[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [council] Action Items: GNSO Council meeting 13 July 2017

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Aug 14 22:20:05 EEST 2017


So it looks like significant opposition (Michele and Rubens both)., do 
you want to seek a compromise?

SP


On 2017-08-07 19:41, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> we are not suggesting the withdrawal per se since it is in the initial 
> motion from Keith. we are proposing amendments in that area to give 
> the working group more time to provide a proposal (ICANN61 instead of 
> ICANN60 as proposed initially). There was already some question on the 
> transition phase between withdrawing and resume the working group with 
> a new structure.
>
> we cannot address the council concerns in the motion. We are proposing 
> a new amendment asking the council to itemize those concerns. The 
> working group can then be tasked to respond to them.
>
> the working group will have basically to work on proposing a new 
> vehicle and responding to the accountability and reporting concerns.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-08-08 0:20 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com 
> <mailto:matthew at intpolicy.com>>:
>
>     Hi Rafik
>
>     Not sure where this is at the moment, but I am a little confused
>     by this
>
>     4. To facilitate the work as requested under Resolved clause #3,
>     allowing for a reasonable time to coordinate with other SOs and
>     ACs to develop a new structure, and to ensure there is no gap
>     between the retirement of the CCWG-IC and the establishment of its
>     successor group, the GNSO Council shall withdraw as a Chartering
>     Organization from the CCWG-IG effective at the conclusion of ICANN
>     61 .
>
>
>     So we are suggesting the GNSO is withdrawing only because of the
>     structure - have we addressed the Council's other concerns?  
>     (Does this assume that whatever other structure the WG-IG assume
>     will not require the GNSO's support or endorsement?)   One of the
>     key issues, I understood, was that there needed to be some
>     accountability of the WG-IG back to the Council or
>     constituencies.  How then would this be accounted for? Or perhaps
>     the discussion has moved on and I am not up to speed.
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Matthew
>
>
>
>
>     On 07/08/2017 13:50, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>     Hi Stephanie,
>>
>>     I shared the proposed amendments in this list just after the last
>>     call but I didn't get any comment
>>     https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-pc/2017-July/000737.html
>>     <https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-pc/2017-July/000737.html>.
>>     no, we didn't submit the amendments to the council.
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Rafik
>>
>>     2017-08-07 21:46 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>>
>>         Just checking, have we submitted our proposal for the IG item
>>         (see bolded bit below item 7) to the GNSO list?  Deadline
>>         looming....
>>
>>         cheers SP
>>
>>
>>
>>         -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>         Subject: 	Re: [council] Action Items: GNSO Council meeting 13
>>         July 2017
>>         Date: 	Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:18:38 +1000
>>         From: 	Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>
>>         <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>
>>         To: 	James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
>>         <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>, council at gnso.icann.org
>>         <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org> <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>         <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>, Jeff Neuman
>>         <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com> <mailto:jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>,
>>         avri at apc.org <mailto:avri at apc.org>
>>         CC: 	gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>         <gnso-secs at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Dear colleagues,
>>
>>         Just following up on the point made by James on 18 July about
>>         whether or not to put the CWG-UCTN Final Report on our August
>>         agenda, or hold it to September's agenda. FYI the following
>>         has taken place since 18 July:
>>
>>           * ccNSO Council has voted on and approved the CWG-UCTN
>>             Final Report
>>           * SubPro is in the process of creating Work Track 5 on geo
>>             names
>>
>>         As a co-chair of this CWG, my personal view is that the GNSO
>>         can endorse the Final Report, but should make comments in the
>>         motion pointing to SubPro and the new WT5. In my view, the
>>         timing of such a motion (and how forcefully we make our
>>         comments about WT5) is dependent upon SubPro - let's put this
>>         on Council's agenda at a time most helpful to SubPro and WT5.
>>         With that in mind, I suggest we take some guidance from Jeff
>>         and Avri here.
>>
>>         I note that our document deadline for August meeting is in
>>         roughly 7 days, so we need time to pull together a motion if
>>         this is going onto the August agenda.
>>
>>         Best wishes,
>>
>>         Heather
>>
>>         On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:17 AM, James M. Bladel
>>         <jbladel at godaddy.com <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Thank you, Nathalie.
>>
>>             Council Colleagues, a few semi-random thoughts on the
>>             items below:
>>
>>             #6. We have a small team working on the GNSO Response to
>>             the GAC's Johannesburg communique. Expect final draft
>>             language this week, with approval via email ballot to
>>             follow. The goal is to provide our response to the Board
>>             in advance of their meeting with the GAC in mid-August.
>>
>>             *#7. CCWG-IG - Please note that this item was
>>             **_deferred_**, rather than withdrawn. This means that it
>>             will appear on our next meeting's ballot for a vote. I
>>             know that some folks wanted to submit amendments, and I
>>             urge that these be posted to the Council list by the next
>>             document deadline (14 AUG), or the motion will head to a
>>             vote un-amended.**
>>             ***
>>             #8. This discussion item has been rescheduled for two
>>             subsequent meetings, so I'm hopeful that we will give it
>>             full consideration during our next meeting. I recommend
>>             we move it to the top of our non-voting agenda.
>>
>>             #9. Because this item is related to other ongoing
>>             activities, including follow-up from the GeoNames
>>             sessions in Johannesburg and the formation of SubPro Work
>>             Track 5, a motion for a vote may or may not appear on our
>>             August agenda. Stay tuned for further developments.
>>
>>             Thank you,
>>
>>             J.
>>             -----------------
>>             James Bladel
>>             GNSO Chair
>>
>>             On Jul 17, 2017, 16:50 -0500, Nathalie Peregrine
>>             <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
>>             <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>, wrote:
>>>
>>>             Dear Councilors,
>>>
>>>             Please find the action items as stated during the
>>>             meeting, below and as attachment arising from the GNSO
>>>             Council meeting held on Thursday 13 July 2017.  Please
>>>             take note of the action items coming out of the Council
>>>             sessions and the proposed timing for delivering on these
>>>             actions.
>>>
>>>             *ACTION ITEMS GNSO COUNCIL MEETING 13 July 2017*
>>>
>>>             *_Item 3. Consent Agenda - Appointment of James Bladel
>>>             as the GNSO Representative to the Empowered Community_*
>>>
>>>               * the GNSO Secretariat to communicate this decision to
>>>                 the ICANN Secretary which will serve as the required
>>>                 written certification from the GNSO Chair
>>>                 designating the individual who shall represent the
>>>                 Decisional Participant on the EC Administration.
>>>
>>>             *__*
>>>
>>>             *_Item 4: COUNCIL VOTE – Proposed Fundamental Bylaw
>>>             Changes_*
>>>
>>>               * GNSO Secretariat to forward the adopted resolution
>>>                 to the Empowered Community Administration before the
>>>                 expiration of the Approval Action Decision Period,
>>>                 as required under Section 1.4, Article 1, Annex D of
>>>                 the ICANN Bylaws.
>>>               * James Bladel, the GNSO’s representative to the
>>>                 Empowered Community Administration, to coordinate
>>>                 with the other four Decisional Participant
>>>                 representatives to ensure that the Empowered
>>>                 Community Administration observes and completes the
>>>                 appropriate process outlined in Section 1.4(b) and
>>>                 (c), Annex D.
>>>
>>>             *__*
>>>
>>>             *_Item 6. COUNCIL VOTE – Approval of GNSO Council Review
>>>             of the GAC Communique from Johannesburg_*
>>>
>>>               * Volunteers to revise response to GAC Communique and
>>>                 circulate revised draft to the Council as soon as
>>>                 possible. Volunteers include: Paul, James, Jeff
>>>                 Neuman (if allowed), Rubens, Heather (sanity check),
>>>                 Phil, Darcy, possibly Stephanie (to convey Avri’s
>>>                 views), and Carlos. Volunteers to consider input
>>>                 received in relation to Geo Names section as well as
>>>                 IGO section, including offering the opportunity to
>>>                 detail IGO/INGO CRP recommendations with the ICANN
>>>                 Board prior to a vote being taken to provide details
>>>                 how small group, IGO comments factored into Final
>>>                 Report and recommendations.
>>>               * GNSO Leadership to provide 7-day notice of e-vote to
>>>                 approve response to GAC Communique
>>>
>>>             *__*
>>>
>>>             *_Item 7: COUNCIL Vote – Next steps in relation to
>>>             Charter for the Cross Community Working Group on
>>>             Internet Governance_*
>>>
>>>               * Motion deferred - GNSO leadership to add this item
>>>                 to the Council agenda for August meeting.
>>>               * All Council members to provide input and proposed
>>>                 amendments to the motions as soon as possible so
>>>                 that discussion can continue on the mailing list
>>>                 ahead of the meeting.
>>>
>>>             *__*
>>>
>>>             *_Item 8. COUNCIL DISCUSSION – Possible Change to the
>>>             Name of the GNSO_*
>>>
>>>               * Item deferred – GNSO Council leadership to add this
>>>                 item to the Council agenda for August meeting.
>>>
>>>             *__*
>>>
>>>             *_Item 9: COUNCIL DISCUSSION – Cross Community Working
>>>             Group on the Use of Country and Territory Names_*
>>>
>>>               * Council members to consider drafting Motion for
>>>                 August meeting on this topic.
>>>               * Ben Fuller to solicit input from ccNSO on this topic
>>>                 and provide feedback to the GNSO Council
>>>
>>>             *__*
>>>
>>>             Please note that all Action Items have been posted on
>>>             the Action Item wiki page here[community.icann.org]
>>>             <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_RgZlAg&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=3Tc6XSN5n8FryvXrAqUdyp0sa6kuAUqPfvvw4f3uwKQ&s=4DEDZ2Meg9ZUFIObabj6BRFzEywMdXPo7au4Kd0LSJI&e=>.
>>>             Please refer to this page for the recent status updates
>>>             on the Action items.
>>>
>>>             Thank you,
>>>
>>>             Kind regards,
>>>
>>>             Nathalie
>>>
>>>             -- 
>>>
>>>             Nathalie Peregrine
>>>
>>>             Specialist, SOAC Support (GNSO)
>>>
>>>             Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>
>>>             Email: nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
>>>             <http://nathalie.peregrine@icann.org%20>
>>>
>>>             Skype: nathalie.peregrine.icann
>>>
>>>             Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive
>>>             courses <http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and
>>>             visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages[gnso.icann.org]
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>>>
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