[PC-NCSG] GNSO Vice Chair selection

[Tapani Tarvainen]

On Oct 21 14:15, David Cake (dave at davecake.net) wrote:

> 	Item 9 probably goes beyond what is practical for this round.

Perhaps. Might work as a way to move forward though, getting
CSG to think about alternatives there.

> To make that binding I think we would actually need to put it into
> the GNSO Working Procedures, and if its not binding there is
> probably no point.

True though I guess none of this would be formally binding anyway.

> But we do need a clear understanding of ?what happens if seeking
> consensus fails?, and that this is an outcome that is likely not
> favoured by either side strongly it gives incentive for consensus.

Yes.

>From your second message:

> 	That its probably going to be disliked is actually a point in
> its failure. We have incentive to seek consensus.

Did you mean in its favour?

The idea was specifically to provide an incentive to seek consensus,
by providing an at least somewhat annoying default outcome.

So should we suggest it to the CSG to see what they think (which
presumably would lead to further discussion, I doubt they'd
instantly accept it anyway), or would you have some alternative
you'd like to suggest?

> 	Item 10 is very sensible to me. It fits in with the GNSO
> procedures, and gives incentive for the house to co-operate, as it
> means both sides get something out of it by mutual consent. .
> 	Item 11 seems sensible and obvious to me. There should be no
> disincentive for either SG to nominate the NCA as a compromise.

Yes, I think they are rather non-controversial.

Any other comments? Anyone?

> > 1. Vice Chairs would serve one-year terms.
> > 
> > 2. The first-term Vice Chair would presumptively serve a second
> > one-year term, but would be subject to review and consent by the other
> > SG after the first term.
> > 
> > 3. Review and consent by the other SG after the first term could
> > result in a rejection of the sitting Vice Chair, but there would need
> > to be extraordinary reasons for this rejection.
> > 
> > 4. If a Vice Chair does not serve a second term (whether by rejection
> > or for any other reason), that Vice Chair's SG would nominate a
> > candidate for the upcoming term, but that Vice Chair would
> > presumptively serve only one one-year term. The new candidate would be
> > subject to review and approval by the other SG.
> > 
> > 5. After two years with one SG, the Vice Chair-ship would be offered
> > as a first nomination to the "non-incumbent" SG.
> > 
> > 6. The "non-incumbent" SG would nominate a candidate for review and
> > approval by the first SG, probably through a "listening tour" process.
> > 
> > 7. While there would be a presumption in favor of the candidate of the
> > "non-incumbent" SG, both SGs and the NCA allocated to the NCPH have to
> > approve the candidate.
> > 
> > 8. If approval is not achieved, the "non-incumbent" SG would nominate
> > another candidate, up to three times if necessary.
> > 
> > 9. If approval is not achieved even after three re-nominations,
> > the NCA would become Vice Chair.
> > 
> > 10. In case either SG member becomes the Chair of GNSO, the other SG
> > would get to select Vice Chair. It would not affect rotation after the
> > Chair passes on to the CPH again, presumptive Vice Chair turn would go
> > to whichever SG did not hold Vice Chair before.
> > 
> > 11. If SGs agree to nominate the NCA as Vice Chair or the NCA becomes
> > Vice Chair as per 9 above, the presumptive rotation would continue
> > after her or his term as if it hadn't happened.

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Tapani Tarvainen