[PC-NCSG] Principles for CCWGs => CCW-IG

[Rafik Dammak]

Hi,

same questions here, I don't see clearly the benefit of having of CCWP
instead of CCWG. both needs some charter and goals setting.

I had discussion with my co-chairs and I think that we can take the
opportunity of having new CEO and see after he starts his term what he can
expect from us. the CCWG-IG was formed as response to Fadi idea and
supposed to give guidance. I raised the point that the group never
interacted with the board or reported its activities, it is something we
have to fix (among other tasks of co-chairs). having this in mind, we are
working on getting things in place and taking some corrective actions to
move from doing only public session planning.

we submitted workshop proposals before to IGF and WSIS, but we didn't
replicate the success of drafting a statement as we did for netmundial. the
relations with ICANN staff is getting improved and someone like Nigel is
quite cooperative. there are some positive things, but a lot of room of
improvement. I acknowledge that co-chairs are not doing enough and bear the
responsibility.

Best,

Rafik

2016-03-03 4:35 GMT+09:00 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>:

> The charter is here:
> https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/CCWG+on+IG+Charter?preview=/52888213/53281052/Charter%20ccWG%20IG%202014%20v05.pdf
>
> The CCWG is not explicitly linked to NetMundial, it should facilitate the
> information about and involvement in any IG process. However, what happened
> in practice is that after NM the CCWG lost momentum and although there is a
> faithful crowd that attends the public sessions, it is not so many people.
> It is serving as a discussion forum to those that participate in ICANN but
> look further to other IG spaces.
>
> On the practical aspect of Bill's message, I do not see clearly why a CCWG
> nature is being an obstacle. Looking back, I do agree it should have ben
> created as a CCWP, but now that it is a CCWG should take active steps to
> change this? In what that would benefit the CCWG? Maybe Bill has more
> insights, I have followed it less closely.
>
> Best wishes,
> Mar?lia
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> I?m not terribly well informed on the work of the CCWG-IG, and was
>> interested to hear the opinions of others in response to your question.
>> Since nobody?s offered an answer, may I ask another one of my own?
>>
>> > On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:25 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [SNIP]
>>
>> > Which brings me to question that?s been percolating for awhile and may
>> finally get discussed in Marrakech: the CCW-IG was initially set up after
>> the 2013 BA meeting to provide a written input to the NETmundial meeting.
>> Since then it has drifted with no ability to work on common texts of any
>> kind (due to resistance from various biz actors we know), and indeed no
>> ability to have a coherent discussion of this or other matters.
>>
>> If that was indeed the reason why the CCWG-IG was set up, was this
>> clearly reflected in its charter? I don?t have it handy, but I imagine as
>> with any ICANN group, when a group completes its mandate, it is then
>> disbanded. In this case, wouldn?t it make sense to disband the CCWG-IG
>> altogether since the NetMundial meeting has come and gone, as opposed to
>> winding it down to a CCWP?
>>
>> I don?t believe the CCWP-HR has shown progress and success because it?s a
>> CCWP. It?s more likely because they have been focused on specific
>> objectives since it was established, and has worked hard to achieve them.
>>
>> Anyway?, I?m interested in thoughts on this, and a response to Bill?s
>> question as well from others who have been more involved.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Amr
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