[PC-NCSG] Principles for CCWGs => CCW-IG

Marilia Maciel mariliamaciel
Wed Mar 2 21:35:27 EET 2016


The charter is here:
https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/CCWG+on+IG+Charter?preview=/52888213/53281052/Charter%20ccWG%20IG%202014%20v05.pdf

The CCWG is not explicitly linked to NetMundial, it should facilitate the
information about and involvement in any IG process. However, what happened
in practice is that after NM the CCWG lost momentum and although there is a
faithful crowd that attends the public sessions, it is not so many people.
It is serving as a discussion forum to those that participate in ICANN but
look further to other IG spaces.

On the practical aspect of Bill's message, I do not see clearly why a CCWG
nature is being an obstacle. Looking back, I do agree it should have ben
created as a CCWP, but now that it is a CCWG should take active steps to
change this? In what that would benefit the CCWG? Maybe Bill has more
insights, I have followed it less closely.

Best wishes,
Mar?lia

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> I?m not terribly well informed on the work of the CCWG-IG, and was
> interested to hear the opinions of others in response to your question.
> Since nobody?s offered an answer, may I ask another one of my own?
>
> > On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:25 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [SNIP]
>
> > Which brings me to question that?s been percolating for awhile and may
> finally get discussed in Marrakech: the CCW-IG was initially set up after
> the 2013 BA meeting to provide a written input to the NETmundial meeting.
> Since then it has drifted with no ability to work on common texts of any
> kind (due to resistance from various biz actors we know), and indeed no
> ability to have a coherent discussion of this or other matters.
>
> If that was indeed the reason why the CCWG-IG was set up, was this clearly
> reflected in its charter? I don?t have it handy, but I imagine as with any
> ICANN group, when a group completes its mandate, it is then disbanded. In
> this case, wouldn?t it make sense to disband the CCWG-IG altogether since
> the NetMundial meeting has come and gone, as opposed to winding it down to
> a CCWP?
>
> I don?t believe the CCWP-HR has shown progress and success because it?s a
> CCWP. It?s more likely because they have been focused on specific
> objectives since it was established, and has worked hard to achieve them.
>
> Anyway?, I?m interested in thoughts on this, and a response to Bill?s
> question as well from others who have been more involved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
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