[PC-NCSG] Fwd: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time for

[Rafik Dammak]

Hi,

The confcall is open to all membership.
We are deciding for nomination only.

Best,

Rafik
On Sep 18, 2015 9:37 PM, "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:

> Hi Rafik,
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> I just wanted to confirm we're only deciding Chair nomination and not
> Chair  vote. In other words, any support for Heather or any other NCPH
> candidate now,does not necessarily oblige any of us to support  the NCPH
> candidate in the final election. Obviously until we definitely know who, if
> anyone, the CPH is putting forward I wouldn't want to do that.
>
> Also, although she won't be involved in the nomination should we invite
> Stefania to be part of the call son she can get to know Heather a bit
> better in case she is nominated?
>
> Thanks again for tolerating my relative ignorance as, as Stephanie might
> say :), a newbie to the process.
>
> Ed
>
>
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> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Sent*: Friday, September 18, 2015 1:23 PM
> *To*: "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net>
> *Cc*: "NCSG-Policy" <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
> *Subject*: re: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW:
> [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time
> for
>
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> We have to decide first who to nominate for chair election from NCPH. The
> deadline for ncph is 25th september. That process and timeline are already
> outlined by GNSO council. After that  we will do election the vice chair at
> ncph level.
> Procedure for vice-chair  was already agreed for this year.
>
> Rafik
> On Sep 18, 2015 9:17 PM, "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>> Thanks for doing all of this.
>>
>> Could you clarify for me, and perhaps the others who are going through
>> this for the first time, what exactly we're deciding? There are obviously
>> many things going on here (Chair, VC, nomination, election, procedures)
>> which overlap two different Councils and for which all moving parts are not
>> yet in place.
>>
>> Sorry for being a bit slow on the uptake.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> *Sent*: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:33 PM
>> *To*: "NCSG-Policy" <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>> *Subject*: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW:
>> [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time
>> for
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> response from steve to David suggestion.
>> the call with Heather will be held in Wednesday. how shall we make
>> decision after that? an ad-hoc call or just via the mailing list?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com>
>> Date: 2015-09-17 22:25 GMT+09:00
>> Subject: RE: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW:
>> [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time
>> for
>> To: Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>, "avri at acm.org" <avri at acm.org>
>> Cc: David Cake <dave at difference.com.au>, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>,
>> Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>, Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Marilia Maciel <
>> mariliamaciel at gmail.com>, Heather Forrest <Heather.Forrest at acu.edu.au>,
>> "David Fares (dfares at 21cf.com)" <dfares at 21cf.com>, "Greg Shatan (
>> gregshatanipc at gmail.com)" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>, "Metalitz, Steven" <
>> met at msk.com>, "Philip Corwin (psc at vlaw-dc.com)" <psc at vlaw-dc.com>, Tony
>> Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, "Tony Holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)"
>> <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> NCSG colleagues,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have consulted with CSG Executive Committee (copied in here) and there
>> is no objection to the position that if a CSG person (e.g., Heather) is
>> elected council chair, then the council vice chair for our House should not
>> come from CSG.
>>
>>
>>
>> I understand you are working to set up a call with Heather to discuss her
>> council chair candidacy.  If that goes well, please let me know so that we
>> can work out the specifics of making a joint nomination by the Sept. 25
>> deadline.
>>
>>
>>
>> If Heather is ultimately elected then we can proceed to the vice chair
>> selection process, using the modified version of Avri?s proposal, with the
>> expectation that no one from CSG would be nominated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Metalitz
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Edward Morris [mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:39 AM
>> *To:* avri at acm.org
>> *Cc:* David Cake; Amr Elsadr; Rafik Dammak; Metalitz, Steven; Stephanie
>> Perrin; Marilia Maciel; Heather Forrest
>> *Subject:* Re: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW:
>> [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time
>> for
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree as well. It makes things a bit simpler and more straightforward.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > this makes sense to me.
>> >
>> > avri
>> >
>> >
>> > On 15-Sep-15 10:21, David Cake wrote:
>> >>>>> On 15 Sep 2015, at 8:31 pm, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi Steve, Rafik and all, >> >> Apologies about my late response to
>> > this message. >> >>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Rafik Dammak
>> > <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> [SNIP] >> >>> About your question
>> > below, yes I think that is about considering them in tandem at least to
>> > shorten the process we also assume that there is interrelation between
>> > selecting a vice-chair and nominating a candidate for chair. Amr may
>> > add more details here. >> >> This wasn?t originally my suggestion, but I
>> > did support this being a discussion item. Of course, Steve is correct.
>> > The chair and vice-chair election/selection processes are very
>> > different, and carried out by different groups. However, my personal
>> > thought on this matter is that it would be desirable to avoid having
>> > both a council chair and vice-chair from the same stakeholder group of
>> > the NCPH. > > Yes. > My experience as vice-chair is that while I
>> > don?t think its a regular problem, I think there are some situations in
>> > which it might be a governance issue if 2 of the 3 council leadership
>> > positions were held by the same SG. I don?t think we need to combine the
>> > two procedures into a single unified one, a simple rule that if we have
>> > an NCPH chair, the vice-chair is from the other NCPH SG regardless of
>> > any rotation rules, would be reasonable. > I actually think this
>> > rule might be in NCPH interests - I think the CPH might be more likely
>> > to vote for an NCPH chair if they know that there will be some balance,
>> > and the Chair is definitely more important. > Regards > > David
>> >
>> >
>> >
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