[PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time for

William Drake wjdrake
Tue Aug 11 17:15:53 EEST 2015


Given the multiple expressions of potential interest I shot him a note to informally inquire whether he might potentially maybe want to think about possible...

Will let you know

BD

> On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> 
> He gets my vote.  I like him and he seems v fair
> SP
> On 2015-08-11 2:59, William Drake wrote:
>> What about Tony Holmes, who has always been a straight shooter, neutral and friendly to us?  Too retired-feeling for your tastes?
>> 
>> I don?t know Heather well and yes she did seem reasonable but given all the history with IPC I do have trouble getting my head around this. It is absolutely inconceivable that         they in turn would ever support a NCSG person for chair?
>> 
>> BD
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree, for what it is worth.  I think it is going to be especially difficult for her, as a relative newcomer, to stay neutral.  However I do agree with Avri's assessment and if it came down to having Heather, we could do a lot worse.  and given that risk we need to ponder any rejection of her very carefully.
>>> I also factor in the fact that she is very strong, and a lawyer.  If I am going to pick a fight with a potentially non-neutral Chair, I would prefer a weaker one, if you follow my somewhat convoluted logic.
>>> Cheers Steph
>>> 
>>> On 2015-08-10 13:55, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>> Yeah?, like I said, I like Heather a lot too. I?ve also attended a GNSO WG newcomers webinar that she presented in, and she really does know the PDP manual backwards.
>>>> 
>>>> Which is kinda why I was surprised she took a strange position on the motion to request an issues report for the new gTLD round (and the suggested amendment to that motion). It seemed inconsistent with what I believe her to know about what issue reports are, and what should go into them.
>>>> 
>>>> My concern is that in situations like this (or others), being an IPC rep with a special interest in how the GNSO is managed will trump the individual councillor?s knowledge of what may or may not be the best course of action to take.
>>>> 
>>>> I may be reading too much into this, but just sayin?.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Amr
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG <mailto:avri at ACM.ORG>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I support Heather as a candidate.  I have seen her operate as a neutral
>>>>> chair and think she is good at it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point, despite IPC being IPC, they do have very reasonable
>>>>> people as their reps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> avri
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10-Aug-15 09:54, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG <mailto:avri at ACM.ORG>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They refused to honor it and it became an ombudsman issue.  We then
>>>>>>> agreed to let them keep the seat for another year and put in David as an
>>>>>>> anodyne candidate the year after.
>>>>>> OK. Thanks. That will give (at least) me some guidance on what circumstances I would agree to if we go ahead with rotations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BTW, have you all been discussing the chair candidacy?  Will we have a
>>>>>>> reasonable candidate to propose?
>>>>>> That?s a good question. The NCPH can make one nomination. To my knowledge, NCSG and CSG have not agreed on one. I wouldn?t be surprised if we have a new chair from the CPH.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I?m not mistaken, there has been an informal suggestion that Heather Forrest be a NCPH nominee. I really do like her a lot, but can?t say I would feel too good about an IPC member chairing the council. I suspect they feel the same way about us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>> 
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