[PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time for

[Stephanie Perrin]

He gets my vote.  I like him and he seems v fair
SP
On 2015-08-11 2:59, William Drake wrote:
> What about Tony Holmes, who has always been a straight shooter, 
> neutral and friendly to us?  Too retired-feeling for your tastes?
>
> I don?t know Heather well and yes she did seem reasonable but given 
> all the history with IPC I do have trouble getting my head around 
> this. It is absolutely inconceivable that they in turn would ever 
> support a NCSG person for chair?
>
> BD
>
>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Stephanie Perrin 
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree, for what it is worth.  I think it is going to be especially 
>> difficult for her, as a relative newcomer, to stay neutral.  However 
>> I do agree with Avri's assessment and if it came down to having 
>> Heather, we could do a lot worse.  and given that risk we need to 
>> ponder any rejection of her very carefully.
>> I also factor in the fact that she is very strong, and a lawyer.  If 
>> I am going to pick a fight with a potentially non-neutral Chair, I 
>> would prefer a weaker one, if you follow my somewhat convoluted logic.
>> Cheers Steph
>>
>> On 2015-08-10 13:55, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>> Yeah?, like I said, I like Heather a lot too. I?ve also attended a 
>>> GNSO WG newcomers webinar that she presented in, and she really does 
>>> know the PDP manual backwards.
>>>
>>> Which is kinda why I was surprised she took a strange position on 
>>> the motion to request an issues report for the new gTLD round (and 
>>> the suggested amendment to that motion). It seemed inconsistent with 
>>> what I believe her to know about what issue reports are, and what 
>>> should go into them.
>>>
>>> My concern is that in situations like this (or others), being an IPC 
>>> rep with a special interest in how the GNSO is managed will trump 
>>> the individual councillor?s knowledge of what may or may not be the 
>>> best course of action to take.
>>>
>>> I may be reading too much into this, but just sayin?.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG 
>>>> <mailto:avri at ACM.ORG>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I support Heather as a candidate.  I have seen her operate as a neutral
>>>> chair and think she is good at it.
>>>>
>>>> At this point, despite IPC being IPC, they do have very reasonable
>>>> people as their reps.
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>> On 10-Aug-15 09:54, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG 
>>>>>> <mailto:avri at ACM.ORG>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They refused to honor it and it became an ombudsman issue.  We then
>>>>>> agreed to let them keep the seat for another year and put in 
>>>>>> David as an
>>>>>> anodyne candidate the year after.
>>>>> OK. Thanks. That will give (at least) me some guidance on what 
>>>>> circumstances I would agree to if we go ahead with rotations.
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, have you all been discussing the chair candidacy?  Will we 
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> reasonable candidate to propose?
>>>>> That?s a good question. The NCPH can make one nomination. To my 
>>>>> knowledge, NCSG and CSG have not agreed on one. I wouldn?t be 
>>>>> surprised if we have a new chair from the CPH.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I?m not mistaken, there has been an informal suggestion that 
>>>>> Heather Forrest be a NCPH nominee. I really do like her a lot, but 
>>>>> can?t say I would feel too good about an IPC member chairing the 
>>>>> council. I suspect they feel the same way about us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
> *********************************************************
> William J. Drake
> International Fellow & Lecturer
>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>   ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), 
> wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
> www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org>
> /Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap /http://goo.gl/sRR01q
> *********************************************************
>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/pc-ncsg/attachments/20150811/fcb69b0e/attachment-0001.html>