[PC-NCSG] Consensus check on Re: [] [] NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice

Amr Elsadr aelsadr
Thu Sep 18 01:01:11 EEST 2014


Great. I?m fine with those two.

Thanks.

Amr

On Sep 17, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> My inclination
> 
> On 17-Sep-14 16:33, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The ones I liked that weren?t by NCSG members were the ones by:
>> 
>> The Internet Commerce Association submitted by Phil Corwin
>> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00012.html)
>> 
> 
> i do not support this one. Has an implication that paying money is
> relevant.  also seems to deny that governments are stakeholders like
> everyone wwesle (I know we don't all agree wtih this)
> 
>> Blacknight submitted by Michele Neylon
>> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00036.html)
>> 
> 
> not this one either.
> he refers to Corwin whose comment i dont endorse.
> 
> but we might want to endorse thee Internet Infrastructure he refers to.
> 
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00032.html
> 
>> and
>> 
>> Tucows submitted by Graeme Bunton
>> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00038.html)
>> 
> 
> i agree with this one.
> 
> avri
> 
> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Amr
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think we would need to read and agree.
>>> 
>>> avri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17-Sep-14 11:51, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>> Sounds good. Would that include non-NCSG comments we might want
>>>> to approve of? Or would that be too big a reading assignment?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Amr
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I approve.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We may want to include in the cover note that this is sent in
>>>>> response and support of previous comments and then enumerate
>>>>> any we agree with.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That we have followed the response rule.  I recommend leaving
>>>>> the stmt as is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> avri
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17-Sep-14 09:48, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can we get this comment approved and submitted soon. There
>>>>>> have only been a couple of minor changes; mostly just
>>>>>> language.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Great catch, Carlos. Slipped my mind. Thanks for that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
>>>>>>> <carlosraulg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Only one additional comment: there is already a direct
>>>>>>>> liaison between GNSO and GAC to ensure early and active
>>>>>>>> communication and engagement.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez Chair ISOC Costa Rica Chapter 
>>>>>>>> _____________________
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> email:   	crg at isoc-cr.org Skype:  	carlos.raulg +506 8335
>>>>>>>> 2487
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> La Internet Society (ISOC) es una organizaci?n
>>>>>>>> internacional sin fines de lucro fundada en 1992 para
>>>>>>>> proporcionar liderazgo en est?ndares relacionados
>>>>>>>> educaci?n y pol?tica de Internet. Con oficinas en
>>>>>>>> Washington DC, Estados Unidos, y en Ginebra, Suiza, busca
>>>>>>>> asegurar el desarrollo, la evoluci?n y la utilizaci?n de 
>>>>>>>> Internet en beneficio de las personas en todo el mundo.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 15/09/2014, a las 08:58, Amr Elsadr
>>>>>>>> <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG> escribi?:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I?ve tried to capture the essence of the different
>>>>>>>>> comments submitted by NCSG members including, Milton,
>>>>>>>>> Robin, Ed, Avri, Wisdom and my own. I don?t know if it
>>>>>>>>> does them all justice, but I?ve posted it here: 
>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
> If I?ve missed any other comments submitted by NCSG members, please let
>>>>> me know.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The document is open for viewing and editing, but it?d
>>>>>>>>> be helpful if folks highlighted and commented on
>>>>>>>>> proposed changes so I can keep track of them.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Amr Elsadr
>>>>>>>>> <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I could try to consolidate the comments submitted by
>>>>>>>>>> NCSG members into one document and see if folks like
>>>>>>>>>> it. I believe that they all cover different and
>>>>>>>>>> important aspects of why the proposed by-laws
>>>>>>>>>> amendment is really bad!!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Rafik Dammak 
>>>>>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Avri again for submitting your contribution
>>>>>>>>>>> and sharing it with us. we had discussion within
>>>>>>>>>>> NCSG list about the proposal and maybe it is time
>>>>>>>>>>> to summarise a common position on that matter. we
>>>>>>>>>>> need volunteer(s) to collect the opinions shared in
>>>>>>>>>>> the list and draft a comment for review.  the
>>>>>>>>>>> deadline is 14th september but we have still the
>>>>>>>>>>> reply period we can use to submit our comment.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
> @Amr @Kathy you participated in the discussion is it possible to
>>>>> volunteer for drafting a NCSG contribution?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Avri
>>>>>>>>>>> Doria <avri at acm.org> Date: 2014-09-09 3:23
>>>>>>>>>>> GMT+09:00 Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Submitted
>>>>>>>>>>> individual comment on GAC advice amendment To:
>>>>>>>>>>> NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I submitted an individual comment.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00017.html
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
> avri
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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