[PC-NCSG] Consensus check on Re: [] [] NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice
Avri Doria
avri
Thu Sep 18 00:05:41 EEST 2014
Hi,
My inclination
On 17-Sep-14 16:33, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The ones I liked that weren?t by NCSG members were the ones by:
>
> The Internet Commerce Association submitted by Phil Corwin
> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00012.html)
>
i do not support this one. Has an implication that paying money is
relevant. also seems to deny that governments are stakeholders like
everyone wwesle (I know we don't all agree wtih this)
> Blacknight submitted by Michele Neylon
> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00036.html)
>
not this one either.
he refers to Corwin whose comment i dont endorse.
but we might want to endorse thee Internet Infrastructure he refers to.
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00032.html
> and
>
> Tucows submitted by Graeme Bunton
> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00038.html)
>
i agree with this one.
avri
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think we would need to read and agree.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 17-Sep-14 11:51, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>> Sounds good. Would that include non-NCSG comments we might want
>>> to approve of? Or would that be too big a reading assignment?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> I approve.
>>>>
>>>> We may want to include in the cover note that this is sent in
>>>> response and support of previous comments and then enumerate
>>>> any we agree with.
>>>>
>>>> That we have followed the response rule. I recommend leaving
>>>> the stmt as is.
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17-Sep-14 09:48, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we get this comment approved and submitted soon. There
>>>>> have only been a couple of minor changes; mostly just
>>>>> language.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great catch, Carlos. Slipped my mind. Thanks for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
>>>>>> <carlosraulg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only one additional comment: there is already a direct
>>>>>>> liaison between GNSO and GAC to ensure early and active
>>>>>>> communication and engagement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez Chair ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
>>>>>>> _____________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> email: crg at isoc-cr.org Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8335
>>>>>>> 2487
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> La Internet Society (ISOC) es una organizaci?n
>>>>>>> internacional sin fines de lucro fundada en 1992 para
>>>>>>> proporcionar liderazgo en est?ndares relacionados
>>>>>>> educaci?n y pol?tica de Internet. Con oficinas en
>>>>>>> Washington DC, Estados Unidos, y en Ginebra, Suiza, busca
>>>>>>> asegurar el desarrollo, la evoluci?n y la utilizaci?n de
>>>>>>> Internet en beneficio de las personas en todo el mundo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El 15/09/2014, a las 08:58, Amr Elsadr
>>>>>>> <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG> escribi?:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I?ve tried to capture the essence of the different
>>>>>>>> comments submitted by NCSG members including, Milton,
>>>>>>>> Robin, Ed, Avri, Wisdom and my own. I don?t know if it
>>>>>>>> does them all justice, but I?ve posted it here:
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
If I?ve missed any other comments submitted by NCSG members, please let
>>>> me know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The document is open for viewing and editing, but it?d
>>>>>>>> be helpful if folks highlighted and commented on
>>>>>>>> proposed changes so I can keep track of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Amr Elsadr
>>>>>>>> <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could try to consolidate the comments submitted by
>>>>>>>>> NCSG members into one document and see if folks like
>>>>>>>>> it. I believe that they all cover different and
>>>>>>>>> important aspects of why the proposed by-laws
>>>>>>>>> amendment is really bad!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Rafik Dammak
>>>>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Avri again for submitting your contribution
>>>>>>>>>> and sharing it with us. we had discussion within
>>>>>>>>>> NCSG list about the proposal and maybe it is time
>>>>>>>>>> to summarise a common position on that matter. we
>>>>>>>>>> need volunteer(s) to collect the opinions shared in
>>>>>>>>>> the list and draft a comment for review. the
>>>>>>>>>> deadline is 14th september but we have still the
>>>>>>>>>> reply period we can use to submit our comment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
@Amr @Kathy you participated in the discussion is it possible to
>>>> volunteer for drafting a NCSG contribution?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Avri
>>>>>>>>>> Doria <avri at acm.org> Date: 2014-09-09 3:23
>>>>>>>>>> GMT+09:00 Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Submitted
>>>>>>>>>> individual comment on GAC advice amendment To:
>>>>>>>>>> NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I submitted an individual comment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00017.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
avri
>>>>>>>>>>
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