[PC-NCSG] NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak
Sun Oct 5 15:10:22 EEST 2014


Hi Amr,

yes I think the deadline for consensus is already passed.

Rafik

2014-10-05 21:10 GMT+09:00 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>:

> Hi again,
>
> May we now consider this consensus period closed? I note Avri?s
> abstention, but there were no objections unless I missed them. The last
> draft is attached to this email.
>
> I?m not sure if the PC has also decided to endorse the other comments that
> were suggested, or not.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>  I support it.
> Stephanie Perrin
> On 2014-10-02, 5:57, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>  Based on the request received by Amr Elsadr (see below), I?m calling for
> a consensus vote on the NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC
> advice. The comment can be found here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>
>  This e-vote consensus call will last till Saturday 4 October 23:59 UTC.
> Thus allowing us to provide NCSG comments before the deadline (6th October).
> May I request prompt action please ?
>
>  Kind regards,
>
>   Rudi Vansnick
> Alternate chair PC-NCSG
>
>
>
> Begin doorgestuurd bericht:
>
>  *Van: *Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>  *Onderwerp: **Antw.: [PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] [Contribution] Working on
> NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice*
>  *Datum: *1 oktober 2014 17:25:57 CEST
>  *Aan: *NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU, NCSG Policy Committee <
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I?m reopening this thread because there have been a significant number
> of changes to the comment I would like to submit on behalf of the NCSG for
> the reply period on the by-laws change regarding the ICANN board?s
> rejection of GAC Advice.
>
>  The comment can be found here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>
>  There has been some discussion regarding what to keep in the comment,
> and what to take out on the NCSG Policy Committee list. This is the last
> bit I?ve come up with. If you do read it, please note that I also plan on
> taking the second sentence out of the first paragraph, unless I hear
> objections against doing so. At this point, I?d like to know if there are
> any objections to submitting the comment in its current form. I ask this to
> both the NCSG PC members, as well as the full NCSG membership.
>
>  Finally, I would also appreciate it if the NCSG (in its response)
> endorses the comments submitted by the NCSG members:
>
>  1. Milton Mueller
> 2. Robin Gross
> 3. Edward Morris
> 4. Avri Doria
> 5. Wisdom Kwasi
> 6. Amr Elsadr (me)
>
>  as well as two other comments submitted by:
>
>  1. Tucows (
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00038.html)
> and
> 2. The Internet Infrastructure Coalition (
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00032.html
> )
>
>  The deadline for submission is on October 6th, so I would appreciate it
> if the NCSG PC also set a deadline for a consensus call.
>
>  Thanks everyone.
>
>  Amr
>
>  On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>
>  Great catch, Carlos. Slipped my mind. Thanks for that.
>
>  Amr
>
>  On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez <carlosraulg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Only one additional comment: there is already a direct liaison between
> GNSO and GAC to ensure early and active communication and engagement.
>
>  Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
>  Chair ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
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>  El 15/09/2014, a las 08:58, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG> escribi?:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I?ve tried to capture the essence of the different comments submitted by
> NCSG members including, Milton, Robin, Ed, Avri, Wisdom and my own. I don?t
> know if it does them all justice, but I?ve posted it here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit?usp=sharing
>
>  If I?ve missed any other comments submitted by NCSG members, please let
> me know.
>
>  The document is open for viewing and editing, but it?d be helpful if
> folks highlighted and commented on proposed changes so I can keep track of
> them.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  Amr
>
>  On Sep 12, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I could try to consolidate the comments submitted by NCSG members into
> one document and see if folks like it. I believe that they all cover
> different and important aspects of why the proposed by-laws amendment is
> really bad!!
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  Amr
>
>  On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  Thanks Avri again for submitting your contribution and sharing it with
> us.
> we had discussion within NCSG list about the proposal and maybe it is time
> to summarise a common position on that matter. we need volunteer(s) to
> collect the opinions shared in the list and draft a comment for review.
>  the deadline is 14th september but we have still the reply period we can
> use to submit our comment.
>
> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en
>
>  @Amr @Kathy you participated in the discussion is it possible to
> volunteer for drafting a NCSG contribution?
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Best,
>
>  Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
> Date: 2014-09-09 3:23 GMT+09:00
> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Submitted individual comment on GAC advice
> amendment
> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I submitted an individual comment.
>
>
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00017.html
>
>
> avri
>
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