[PC-NCSG] Joint SO/AC/SG Leaders' Statement on the IANA Globalization Progress?
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak
Tue Mar 18 13:56:44 EET 2014
Hi Bill,
I am not sure why he will write to CCWG, if because the same person we have
in mind then that person is not going to be convinced anyway. yesterday
call was another proof, the discussion in the CCWG mailing list too.
Rafik
2014-03-18 20:28 GMT+09:00 William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>:
> Just spoke with David Olive, he will write to CCWG clarifying intent.
>
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:47 AM, avri doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:
>
> They are not only proposing a statement, they are pushing it.
>
>
> avri
>
> Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: William Drake
> Date:03/18/2014 06:27 (GMT-05:00)
> To: NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy
> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Joint SO/AC/SG Leaders' Statement on the IANA
> Globalization Progress?
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>
> *Subject: **Re: Joint SO/AC/SG Leaders' Statement on the IANA
> Globalization Progress?*
> *Date: *March 18, 2014 at 11:03:29 AM GMT+1
> *To: *marie-laure Lemineur <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Jonathan Robinson <
> jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com)"
> <ocl at gih.com>, "Drazek, Keith (kdrazek at verisign.com)" <
> kdrazek at verisign.com>, "liman at netnod.se" <liman at netnod.se>, Patrik
> F?ltstr?m <paf at netnod.se>, "adiel at afrinic.net" <adiel at afrinic.net>,
> "'Byron Holland' (byron.holland at cira.ca)" <byron.holland at cira.ca>,
> "Kristina Rosette (krosette at cov.com)" <krosette at cov.com>, "
> wjdrake at gmail.com" <wjdrake at gmail.com>, "Tony Holmes (
> tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, "
> junsec at wide.ad.jp" <junsec at wide.ad.jp>, "louie at louie.net" <louie at louie.net>,
> Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>, "Elisa Cooper (
> elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com)" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, "
> heather.dryden at ic.gc.ca" <heather.dryden at ic.gc.ca>, Rafik Dammak <
> rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>
> Dear SO-AC/SG Leaders:
>
> Please find attached revised redline version which incorporates Patrik's
> proposed edits, as well as Michele's suggestion.
>
> How best to focus on getting agreement on a high level statement so this
> could go out before Singapore (as people will have already started
> traveling).
>
> Any further detailed statement from SO/AC/SG/C can always follow.
>
> Best regards, David
>
> --
> David A. Olive
>
> *Vice President, Policy Development Support General Manager,
> ICANN Regional Headquarters ?Istanbul*
>
>
> *Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *
> *Hakki Yeten Cad. Selenium Plaza No:10/C K:5*
> *34349 Fulya, Besiktas, Istanbul, Turkey *
>
> *Tel: +90.212.381.8727 <%2B90.212.381.8727> - Fax: +90.212.381.8731
> <%2B90.212.381.8731> - Mobile: +1. 202.341.3611 <%2B1.%20202.341.3611>*
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> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:23 PM
> To: David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>
> Cc: marie-laure Lemineur <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Jonathan Robinson <
> jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com)"
> <ocl at gih.com>, "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek at verisign.com>, Lars-Johan Liman <
> liman at netnod.se>, Patrik F?ltstr?m <paf at netnod.se>, "adiel at afrinic.net" <
> adiel at afrinic.net>, Byron Holland <byron.holland at cira.ca>, "Kristina
> Rosette (krosette at cov.com)" <krosette at cov.com>, William Drake <
> wjdrake at gmail.com>, tony holmes <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, Jun Murai <
> junsec at wide.ad.jp>, "louie at louie.net" <louie at louie.net>, Michele Neylon -
> Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>, "Elisa Cooper (
> elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com)" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, Heather
> Dryden <Heather.Dryden at ic.gc.ca>
> Subject: Re: Joint SO/AC/SG Leaders' Statement on the IANA Globalization
> Progress?
>
> Hi David,
> With feedback from different groups, is it possible to get an updated
> version of the statement ? Maybe time to use collaborative tool, at least
> something like google doc. Otherwise we won't be synchronized.
> Rafik
> On Mar 18, 2014 2:52 AM, "David Olive" <david.olive at icann.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, everyone for your cooperation thus far.
>>
>> Regards, David
>>
>> --
>> David A. Olive
>> Vice President, Policy Development Support
>> General Manager, ICANN Regional Headquarters ?Istanbul
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>> Hakki Yeten Cad. Selenium Plaza No:10/C K:5
>> 34349 Fulya, Besiktas, Istanbul, Turkey
>>
>> Tel: +90.212.381.8727 - Fax: +90.212.381.8731 - Mobile: +1. 202.341.3611
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/17/14 7:12 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele at blacknight.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >What Mr Falstrom said (sorry - can't do the funky accents on this
>> >keyboard easily)
>> >
>> >I've also had some input from the Registrar ExCom which I'll try to share
>> >ASAP
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Mr Michele Neylon
>> >Blacknight Solutions
>> >Hosting & Colocation, Domains
>> >http://www.blacknight.co/
>> >http://blog.blacknight.com/
>> >http://www.technology.ie
>> >Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
>> >Locall: 1850 929 929
>> >Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
>> >Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763
>> >Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon
>> >-------------------------------
>> >Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
>> >Park,Sleaty
>> >Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Patrik F?ltstr?m [mailto:paf at netnod.se]
>> >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:10 PM
>> >To: David Olive; liman at netnod.se; 'Byron Holland'
>> >(byron.holland at cira.ca); Drazek, Keith (kdrazek at verisign.com); Olivier
>> MJ
>> >Crepin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com); Kristina Rosette (krosette at cov.com);
>> >wjdrake at gmail.com; Rafik Dammak (rafik.dammak at gmail.com); Elisa Cooper
>> >(elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com); junsec at wide.ad.jp; adiel at afrinic.net;
>> >louie at louie.net; Jonathan Robinson (jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com); Tony
>> >Holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com); heather.dryden at ic.gc.ca;
>> >marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com); Michele Neylon - Blacknight
>> >Subject: Re: Joint SO/AC/SG Leaders' Statement on the IANA Globalization
>> >Progress?
>> >
>> >Another comment...then I leave my office :-)
>> >
>> >I know NTIA wrote "Key Internet Domain Name Functions", but do remember
>> >that:
>> >
>> >ICANN != IANA
>> >
>> >IANA != DNS
>> >
>> >DNS != Internet
>> >
>> >So, please, please, please try to find a way not to continue the
>> >maddening habit of referring interchangeably to the IANA functions, the
>> >DNS, and the Internet.
>> >
>> >This draft speaks of the intention "to transition key Internet domain
>> >name functions to the global multistakeholder community," a transition
>> >plan needing to "maintain..the Internet DNS," and the IANA functions as
>> >necessary "to ensure the continued security, stability and resiliency of
>> >the Internet." There's a reference to "global customers and partners of
>> >the IANA services" but it's ambiguous.
>> >
>> > Patrik
>> >
>> >On 2014-03-17 14:58, David Olive wrote:
>> >> Dear SO/AC/SG Leaders:
>> >>
>> >> Just to add to my earlier note. Attached is a rough draft which may
>> >> help to facilitate a joint statement.
>> >>
>> >> Comments are welcomed.
>> >>
>> >> Regards, David
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David A. Olive
>> >> *Vice President, Policy Development Support General Manager, ICANN
>> >> Regional Headquarters -Istanbul*
>> >> *
>> >> *
>> >> *Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>> >> *
>> >> *Hakki Yeten Cad. Selenium Plaza No:10/C K:5*
>> >> *34349 Fulya, Besiktas, Istanbul, Turkey *
>> >> *
>> >> *
>> >> *Tel: +90.212.381.8727 - Fax: +90.212.381.8731 - Mobile: +1.
>> >> 202.341.3611*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: David Olive <david.olive at icann.org
>> >> <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>
>> >> Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:42 PM
>> >> To: Lars-Johan Liman <liman at netnod.se <mailto:liman at netnod.se>>, Byron
>> >> Holland <byron.holland at cira.ca <mailto:byron.holland at cira.ca>>,
>> >> "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek at verisign.com <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>>,
>> >> "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>)"
>> >> <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>, "Kristina Rosette
>> >> (krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>)" <krosette at cov.com
>> >> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>, "Elisa Cooper
>> >> (elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>)"
>> >> <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>>,
>> >> Jun Murai <junsec at wide.ad.jp <mailto:junsec at wide.ad.jp>>, Patrik
>> >> F?ltstr?m <paf at netnod.se <mailto:paf at netnod.se>>, "adiel at afrinic.net
>> >> <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>" <adiel at afrinic.net
>> >> <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>>, "louie at louie.net <mailto:louie at louie.net
>> >"
>> >> <louie at louie.net <mailto:louie at louie.net>>, Jonathan Robinson
>> >> <jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com
>> >> <mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>>,
>> >> tony holmes <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>> >> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>>, Heather Dryden
>> >> <Heather.Dryden at ic.gc.ca <mailto:Heather.Dryden at ic.gc.ca>>,
>> >> marie-laure Lemineur <mllemineur at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>>, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
>> >> <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>>
>> >> Subject: Joint SO/AC/SG Leaders' Statement on the IANA Globalization
>> >> Progress?
>> >>
>> >> Dear SO/AC/SG Leaders:
>> >>
>> >> In light of our recent conversations about this announcement, might
>> >> it be appropriate for a short joint SO/AC/SG leaders' statement
>> >> welcoming the US Government's announcement of the suggested changes
>> >> related to the IANA functions contract.
>> >>
>> >> Such a statement could be an impressive demonstration of ICANN's
>> >> multistakeholder Community working together and willing to be involved
>> >> in next steps. This document could be shared in Singapore, maybe at
>> >> the Monday session.
>> >>
>> >> An example might be found in the statement by the "Internet Technical
>> >> Leaders Welcome IANA Globalization Progress" - attached.
>> >>
>> >> Please let me know if there would be any support for drafting such a
>> >> statement. I would be ready to assist you in this task, if needed.
>> >>
>> >> Regards, David
>> >> --
>> >> David A. Olive
>> >> *Vice President, Policy Development Supportthe General Manager, ICANN
>> >> Regional Headquarters -Istanbul*
>> >> *
>> >> *
>> >> *Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>> >> *
>> >> *Hakki Yeten Cad. Selenium Plaza No:10/C K:5*
>> >> *34349 Fulya, Besiktas, Istanbul, Turkey *
>> >> *
>> >> *
>> >> *Tel: +90.212.381.8727 - Fax: +90.212.381.8731 - Mobile: +1.
>> >> 202.341.3611*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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> William J. Drake
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> University of Zurich, Switzerland
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