[PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] Draft NCSG response to “Enhancing ICANN’s Accountability”-process.

Maria Farrell maria.farrell
Fri Jun 6 12:05:44 EEST 2014


Hi Gabrielle and Niels,

Thank you for drafting this excellent statement. It is a really great piece
of work.

And thanks to everyone who contributed comments and input along the way.

All the best, Maria


On 6 June 2014 11:14, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Gabrielle,
>
> thank you very much for the work done and responding to the comments
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2014-06-06 5:08 GMT+09:00 Gabrielle Guillemin <gabrielle at article19.org>:
>
> Hi all,
>>
>> This should be the final document:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz9-BCYY8sMWgACs1OWxDypfQH_DXlzaqlCw-OqlAiY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Please note that in most instances, we didn't make any further changes as
>> there were no concrete language suggestions or the comments concerned the
>> questions themselves.
>>
>> Changes have been made at: Q1, para. 2, last sentence and Q2, para.2, 2nd
>> sentence.
>>
>> Please let me know if you would like the rationale for these or if there
>> is anything else we can do.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Gabrielle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Maria Farrell [maria.farrell at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 03 June 2014 10:38
>> To: Rafik Dammak
>> Cc: NCSG-Policy; Niels ten Oever; Gabrielle Guillemin
>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] Draft NCSG response to ?Enhancing
>> ICANN?s Accountability?-process.
>>
>> Sorry, guys - I forgot Niels and Gabrielle weren't on the NCSG PC list.
>> Thanks, Rafik!
>>
>> Rafik, with the timeline I proposed, I let the 5th be potentially a day
>> to resolve any conflicting comments Niels and Gabrielle receive. So if they
>> get things that are hard to reconcile, they may need that 24 hours to write
>> them up. But if not, we should be able to submit on 5 June.
>>
>> cheers, m
>>
>>
>> On 3 June 2014 10:34, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maria,
>>
>> Thanks!adding niels and gabrielle in cc.
>> With your proposed timeline I can submit  by 5th june?
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2014 6:16 PM, "Maria Farrell" <maria.farrell at gmail.com<mailto:
>> maria.farrell at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Following the 1-week extension by ICANN to submission of comments, we now
>> need to finalise and submit ours.
>>
>> Any final revisions need to be submitted by midnight GMT tomorrow, Weds,
>> 4 June. The final version will be submitted to ICANN 24 hours after that.
>>
>> So 1) if you have final revisions, make them to this doc (and note your
>> rationale), or send direct to Niels and Gabrielle.
>>
>> 2) Niels/Gabrielle, please send me the final version by midnight GMT,
>> Thurs 5 June.
>>
>> All the best, Maria
>>
>>
>> On 27 May 2014 13:05, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Maria,
>>
>> Niels and Gabrielle are going to work in the comments today to resolve
>> the comments. I guess we can have clean version by tomorrow?
>> I can confirm with them
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-27 20:56 GMT+09:00 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com<mailto:
>> maria.farrell at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Are Niels and Gabrielle happy with the current draft of the document at
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz9-BCYY8sMWgACs1OWxDypfQH_DXlzaqlCw-OqlAiY/edit
>> ?
>>
>> As Rafik has pointed out, we have another couple of days to finalise. So
>> I'd just like to check if the interested people are still working on the
>> draft / or satisfied with it?
>>
>> All the best, Maria
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 May 2014 06:34, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marilia,
>>
>> thanks for the review and commenting. the deadline to submit was Tuesday
>> 23:59 UTC but checking the announcement, we get 3 additional days because
>> the technical issuers with migration to new website (
>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/enhancing-accountability-2014-05-06-en
>> ).
>>
>> Policy Committee should endorse asap. I think that Maria will handle the
>> last call as PC chair. then having the green light I will submit before the
>> deadline.
>>
>> there will be reply period after this and I think we can expand with
>> another comment about missing parts or clarifying others, in addition to
>> commenting the contributions of other groups.
>>
>> Niels and Gabrielle are working on resolving remaining questions in the
>> document.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-26 8:03 GMT+09:00 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com<mailto:
>> mariliamaciel at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Thanks, Rafik. Made a few comments, mostly on top of others.
>> Good contribution. Thanks to folks of Article 19 and others who worked on
>> it.
>> Best,
>> Mar?lia
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Avri,
>>
>> Niels and Gabrielle will answers comments soon. and yes we should
>> lockdown on language soon. hope that next comments would propose some
>> wording.
>> I think we will be more efficient than ITU.. hopefully :)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2014-05-23 1:55 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria <avri at acm.org<mailto:avri at acm.org>>:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> had already indicated it in comments.  have now added words to Rafik's
>> added words.
>>
>> added some other weasel words too in response to some of Milton's
>> concerns.
>>
>> when do we get  a lock down on the language and a removal of brackets.
>>
>> [we have become so ITU.]
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 22-May-14 10:47, Maria Farrell wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > No final call has yet been made. Avri, would you mind marking up the
>> > text with your suggestions and re-circulating?
>> >
>> > Many thanks, Maria
>> >
>> >
>> > On 22 May 2014 13:22, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi Rudi,
>> >
>> >     no, Niels shared the document two days ago and we are getting
>> >     comments now.
>> >
>> >     Rafik
>> >
>> >
>> >     2014-05-22 17:08 GMT+09:00 Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
>> <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
>> >     <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be<mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>>>:
>> >
>> >         If I?m not wrong we agreed on the content of the proposed
>> >         document (googledoc) a week ago.
>> >
>> >         Maria, can you proceed ?
>> >
>> >         Kind regards,
>> >
>> >         Rudi Vansnick
>> >         NPOC chair Policy Committee
>> >         NPOC treasurer
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>> >         Op 20-mei-2014, om 13:06 heeft Rafik Dammak
>> >         <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> <mailto:
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>> het
>> >         volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> >>         Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >>         We have this draft commenting ICANN accountability. The
>> >>         comment deadline is 27th may.
>> >>         I count on PC to act quickly.
>> >>
>> >>         Best Regards,
>> >>
>> >>         Rafik
>> >>
>> >>         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>         From: "Niels ten Oever" <lists at digitaldissidents.org<mailto:
>> lists at digitaldissidents.org>
>> >>         <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org<mailto:
>> lists at digitaldissidents.org>>>
>> >>         Date: May 20, 2014 7:58 PM
>> >>         Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft NCSG response to ?Enhancing
>> >>         ICANN?s Accountability?-process.
>> >>         To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu<mailto:
>> NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>> >>         <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu<mailto:
>> NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>>
>> >>         Cc:
>> >>
>> >>         Dear all,
>> >>
>> >>         Gabrielle and I, with the great comments from Brenden and
>> >>         Avri, have
>> >>         drafted a potential NCSG response to the ?Enhancing ICANN?s
>> >>         Accountability?-process. You can find it and comment here:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz9-BCYY8sMWgACs1OWxDypfQH_DXlzaqlCw-OqlAiY/edit?usp=sharing
>> >>
>> >>         The deadline is Tuesday next week, so it would be great if you
>> >>         could
>> >>         share your comments before Monday the 26th.
>> >>
>> >>         Best,
>> >>
>> >>         Niels
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         Niels ten Oever
>> >>         Acting Head of Digital
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