[PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] Draft NCSG response to “Enhancing ICANN’s Accountability”-process.

Tue Jun 3 17:01:57 EEST 2014

Hi Niels,

if some part are not easy to resolve, one option is that we can drop them
for now and work on comment for reply period.

For submission, I will do that on behalf of NCSG to this address
comments-enhancing-accountability-06may14 at icann.org

submitted comments are here
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-enhancing-accountability-06may14/

Best,
Rafik

2014-06-03 22:56 GMT+09:00 Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org>:

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> Dear all,
>
> Gabrielle and I'll try to resolve all comments by Thursday (no time to
> work on this before), some comments are quite general though, so they
> might not be very easy to resolve in a manner that is satisfying for
> everyone.
>
> Just to be sure: what is the submission process. Do we send it to
> Rafik, Maria, or do we send it to ICANN ourselves on behalf of the
> NCSG? If the latter, do we send it to theresa.swinehart at icann.org
> directly?
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
>
> Niels ten Oever
> Acting Head of Digital
>
> Article 19
> www.article19.org
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> On 06/03/2014 11:38 AM, Maria Farrell wrote:
> > Sorry, guys - I forgot Niels and Gabrielle weren't on the NCSG PC
> > list. Thanks, Rafik!
> >
> > Rafik, with the timeline I proposed, I let the 5th be potentially a
> > day to resolve any conflicting comments Niels and Gabrielle
> > receive. So if they get things that are hard to reconcile, they may
> > need that 24 hours to write them up. But if not, we should be able
> > to submit on 5 June.
> >
> > cheers, m
> >
> >
> > On 3 June 2014 10:34, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maria,
> >
> > Thanks!adding niels and gabrielle in cc. With your proposed
> > timeline I can submit  by 5th june?
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> > On Jun 3, 2014 6:16 PM, "Maria Farrell" <maria.farrell at gmail.com
> > <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Following the 1-week extension by ICANN to submission of comments,
> > we now need to finalise and submit ours.
> >
> > Any final revisions need to be submitted by midnight GMT tomorrow,
> > Weds, 4 June. The final version will be submitted to ICANN 24 hours
> > after that.
> >
> > So 1) if you have final revisions, make them to this doc (and note
> > your rationale), or send direct to Niels and Gabrielle.
> >
> > 2) Niels/Gabrielle, please send me the final version by midnight
> > GMT, Thurs 5 June.
> >
> > All the best, Maria
> >
> >
> > On 27 May 2014 13:05, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maria,
> >
> > Niels and Gabrielle are going to work in the comments today to
> > resolve the comments. I guess we can have clean version by
> > tomorrow? I can confirm with them
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> >
> > 2014-05-27 20:56 GMT+09:00 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com
> > <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>>:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Are Niels and Gabrielle happy with the current draft of the
> > document at
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz9-BCYY8sMWgACs1OWxDypfQH_DXlzaqlCw-OqlAiY/edit
> >
> >
> ?
> >
> > As Rafik has pointed out, we have another couple of days to
> > finalise. So I'd just like to check if the interested people are
> > still working on the draft / or satisfied with it?
> >
> > All the best, Maria
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26 May 2014 06:34, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marilia,
> >
> > thanks for the review and commenting. the deadline to submit was
> > Tuesday 23:59 UTC but checking the announcement, we get 3
> > additional days because the technical issuers with migration to new
> > website
> > (
> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/enhancing-accountability-2014-05-06-en
> ).
> >
> >
> > Policy Committee should endorse asap. I think that Maria will
> > handle the last call as PC chair. then having the green light I
> > will submit before the deadline.
> >
> > there will be reply period after this and I think we can expand
> > with another comment about missing parts or clarifying others, in
> > addition to commenting the contributions of other groups.
> >
> > Niels and Gabrielle are working on resolving remaining questions in
> > the document.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014-05-26 8:03 GMT+09:00 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com
> > <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>>:
> >
> > Thanks, Rafik. Made a few comments, mostly on top of others. Good
> > contribution. Thanks to folks of Article 19 and others who worked
> > on it. Best, Mar?lia
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Rafik Dammak
> > <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Avri,
> >
> > Niels and Gabrielle will answers comments soon. and yes we should
> > lockdown on language soon. hope that next comments would propose
> > some wording. I think we will be more efficient than ITU..
> > hopefully :)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> > 2014-05-23 1:55 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> > <mailto:avri at acm.org>>:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > had already indicated it in comments. have now added words to
> > Rafik's added words.
> >
> > added some other weasel words too in response to some of Milton's
> > concerns.
> >
> > when do we get  a lock down on the language and a removal of
> > brackets.
> >
> > [we have become so ITU.]
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > On 22-May-14 10:47, Maria Farrell wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> No final call has yet been made. Avri,
> > would you mind marking up the
> >> text with your suggestions and
> > re-circulating?
> >>
> >> Many thanks, Maria
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22 May 2014 13:22, Rafik Dammak
> > <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Rudi,
> >>
> >> no, Niels shared the document two
> > days ago and we are getting
> >> comments now.
> >>
> >> Rafik
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-05-22 17:08 GMT+09:00 Rudi
> > Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
> >> <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
> > <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>>>:
> >>
> >> If I?m not wrong we agreed on
> > the content of the proposed
> >> document (googledoc) a week ago.
> >>
> >> Maria, can you proceed ?
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Rudi Vansnick NPOC chair Policy Committee NPOC treasurer
> >> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
> > <mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org> <mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
> > <mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org>>
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> >> www.npoc.org
> > <http://www.npoc.org> <http://www.npoc.org>
> >>
> >> Op 20-mei-2014, om 13:06 heeft
> > Rafik Dammak
> >> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>> het
> >> volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> We have this draft commenting
> > ICANN accountability. The
> >>> comment deadline is 27th may. I count on PC to act quickly.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Rafik
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message
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> >>> From: "Niels ten Oever"
> > <lists at digitaldissidents.org <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org>
> >>>
> > <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org
> > <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org>>>
> >>> Date: May 20, 2014 7:58 PM Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft
> > NCSG response to ?Enhancing
> >>> ICANN?s Accountability?-process. To:
> > <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
> > <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
> >>>
> > <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
> > <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>>
> >>> Cc:
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> Gabrielle and I, with the
> > great comments from Brenden and
> >>> Avri, have drafted a potential NCSG
> > response to the ?Enhancing ICANN?s
> >>> Accountability?-process. You
> > can find it and comment here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz9-BCYY8sMWgACs1OWxDypfQH_DXlzaqlCw-OqlAiY/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> The deadline is Tuesday next
> > week, so it would be great if you
> >>> could share your comments before
> > Monday the 26th.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Niels
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Niels ten Oever Acting Head of Digital
> >>>
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