[PC-NCSG] CSG decision regarding our candidate
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak
Mon Jun 2 09:10:03 EEST 2014
Hi Joy,
for the end of game, it depends which election process we will agree with
CSG , I suspect that they may suggest what they already proposed for next
elections (when they thought we could elect a board member with the first 3
rounds), it seems more complex version of what Avri proposed
Best,
Rafik
2014-06-02 14:22 GMT+09:00 joy <joy at apc.org>:
> thanks for the updates - as Stephanie requests, yes, it would be good to
> have reasons
> Klaus, I also do not understand the rationale of proposing a candidate
> that CSG has made clear they will not support - is this not a poor use
> of our precious few resources?
> meanwhile, any thoughts on the end game here?
>
> joy
>
> On 2/06/2014 5:20 a.m., Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> > why not, did they give a reason?
> > steph
> > ________________________________________
> > From: pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org <pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org> on
> behalf of Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
> > Sent: June 1, 2014 12:01 PM
> > To: Avri Doria
> > Cc: pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org
> > Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] CSG decision regarding our candidate
> >
> > From what I can tell, the CSG have clearly indicated that they will not
> support Sam. Is there any reason to believe that there may be a splinter
> constituency within them that we don't know about?
> >
> > If not, I don't understand the rationale behind putting Sam up in a vote
> against a candidate of theirs. Klaus..., could you please elaborate on this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Amr
> >
> > Sent from mobile
> >
> >> On Jun 1, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Perhaps he did not have a chance for stray votes, just as i never had a
> >> chance to go up against NOTA in a third round. He was selected as the
> >> compromise candidate and that did not work. Now we move on.
> >>
> >> Yes, we disagree.
> >> This is something the rest of the PC will have to weigh in on.
> >>
> >> avri
> >>
> >>> On 01-Jun-14 16:53, Klaus Stoll wrote:
> >>> Dear Colleagues
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/1/2014 2:44 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not think that makes sense. We already know that he is not going
> >>>> to get their votes.
> >>> to get their votes.
> >>>
> >>> I very strongly disagree with this! You had your chance to see if there
> >>> are any stray votes, Sam has the same right to have a chance to collect
> >>> stray votes. In fact I have a feeling that he might be able to pick 2
> >>> votes up, he was well received by some.
> >>>> First we need to come to a mutual decide that none of the previous
> >>>> candidates are qualified to run.
> >>> Agree, on the other side, why should we allow Bill to take the due
> >>> process hostage?
> >>>> Then CSG and NCSG pick 2 new candidates
> >>> See above, much too early! Sam needs to have his day!
> >>>> And we come up with a procedure that terminates - like the one i
> >>>> suggested.
> >>> We should discuss this, but nothing is agreed and decided!
> >>>
> >>> Yours
> >>>
> >>> Klaus
> >>>> avri
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 01-Jun-14 15:29, Klaus Stoll wrote:
> >>>>> Dear Friends
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greetings. We should be disappointed but not beaten. We should still
> put
> >>>>> Sam up as a candidate and have one if not three round of votes on
> him.
> >>>>> We might be n for a pleasant surprise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yours
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Klaus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/30/2014 11:54 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Everybody,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve Metalitz just informed me that CSG cannot support Sam
> candidate.
> >>>>>> I am really for Sam and definitely don't like bringing those kind of
> >>>>>> news.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> we shouldn't wait for CSG to come with proposals and we should be
> more
> >>>>>> proactive in this regard.
> >>>>>> first thing is to agree about deadline to elect board member to
> impose
> >>>>>> some visibility. agree on election process. I don't know if they
> will
> >>>>>> propose to meet in London but I would like the NCSG PC to work on
> that
> >>>>>> before.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> looking to hear your comments.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>> From: *Metalitz, Steven* <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>
> >>>>>> Date: 2014-05-31 6:11 GMT+09:00
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19 May
> >>>>>> 2014
> >>>>>> To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wanted to let you know that on our call today, CSG concluded that
> we
> >>>>>> cannot support Sam as a Board candidate at this time. We are
> >>>>>> continuing to explore further options for moving forward. I will
> let
> >>>>>> you know as soon as we have something further to propose.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *From:*Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
> >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:56 PM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *To:* Metalitz, Steven
> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19
> >>>>>> May 2014
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Steve, so we will wait then for the final decision.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2014-05-24 4:01 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Rafik,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We had a CSG leadership call on this today and are undertaking
> further
> >>>>>> consultation within our constituencies on a couple of points. We
> are
> >>>>>> to meet again next Friday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *From:*Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:56 PM
> >>>>>> *To:* Metalitz, Steven
> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19
> >>>>>> May 2014
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Steve,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> is it possible to know when CSG will respond to us about Sam
> >>>>>> candidature?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2014-05-21 9:53 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Steve,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2014-05-21 4:36 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rafik,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For circulation to NCSG.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Nathalie Peregrine [mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
> >>>>>> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>]
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM
> >>>>>> To: Rosette, Kristina; Metalitz, Steven; tony holmes
> >>>>>> (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>); Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
> >>>>>> (Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de
> >>>>>> <mailto:Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de>);
> >>>>>> Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com>; marilynscade at hotmail.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>; harris at cabase.org.ar
> >>>>>> <mailto:harris at cabase.org.ar>
> >>>>>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
> >>>>>> Subject: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19 May 2014
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please find attached the transcript of the CSG call held with
> Sam
> >>>>>> Lanfranco on May 19th 2014.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathalie
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> > _______________________________________________
> > PC-NCSG mailing list
> > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > PC-NCSG mailing list
> > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/pc-ncsg/attachments/20140602/3769cee1/attachment-0001.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: CSG suggestions - Board seat 14 election procedure_draft.docx
Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
Size: 23556 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/pc-ncsg/attachments/20140602/3769cee1/attachment-0001.docx>
More information about the NCSG-PC
mailing list