[PC-NCSG] CSG decision regarding our candidate
joy
joy
Mon Jun 2 08:22:45 EEST 2014
thanks for the updates - as Stephanie requests, yes, it would be good to
have reasons
Klaus, I also do not understand the rationale of proposing a candidate
that CSG has made clear they will not support - is this not a poor use
of our precious few resources?
meanwhile, any thoughts on the end game here?
joy
On 2/06/2014 5:20 a.m., Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> why not, did they give a reason?
> steph
> ________________________________________
> From: pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org <pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org> on behalf of Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
> Sent: June 1, 2014 12:01 PM
> To: Avri Doria
> Cc: pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org
> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] CSG decision regarding our candidate
>
> From what I can tell, the CSG have clearly indicated that they will not support Sam. Is there any reason to believe that there may be a splinter constituency within them that we don't know about?
>
> If not, I don't understand the rationale behind putting Sam up in a vote against a candidate of theirs. Klaus..., could you please elaborate on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> Sent from mobile
>
>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Perhaps he did not have a chance for stray votes, just as i never had a
>> chance to go up against NOTA in a third round. He was selected as the
>> compromise candidate and that did not work. Now we move on.
>>
>> Yes, we disagree.
>> This is something the rest of the PC will have to weigh in on.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>> On 01-Jun-14 16:53, Klaus Stoll wrote:
>>> Dear Colleagues
>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2014 2:44 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I do not think that makes sense. We already know that he is not going
>>>> to get their votes.
>>> to get their votes.
>>>
>>> I very strongly disagree with this! You had your chance to see if there
>>> are any stray votes, Sam has the same right to have a chance to collect
>>> stray votes. In fact I have a feeling that he might be able to pick 2
>>> votes up, he was well received by some.
>>>> First we need to come to a mutual decide that none of the previous
>>>> candidates are qualified to run.
>>> Agree, on the other side, why should we allow Bill to take the due
>>> process hostage?
>>>> Then CSG and NCSG pick 2 new candidates
>>> See above, much too early! Sam needs to have his day!
>>>> And we come up with a procedure that terminates - like the one i
>>>> suggested.
>>> We should discuss this, but nothing is agreed and decided!
>>>
>>> Yours
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 01-Jun-14 15:29, Klaus Stoll wrote:
>>>>> Dear Friends
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings. We should be disappointed but not beaten. We should still put
>>>>> Sam up as a candidate and have one if not three round of votes on him.
>>>>> We might be n for a pleasant surprise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours
>>>>>
>>>>> Klaus
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/30/2014 11:54 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Metalitz just informed me that CSG cannot support Sam candidate.
>>>>>> I am really for Sam and definitely don't like bringing those kind of
>>>>>> news.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we shouldn't wait for CSG to come with proposals and we should be more
>>>>>> proactive in this regard.
>>>>>> first thing is to agree about deadline to elect board member to impose
>>>>>> some visibility. agree on election process. I don't know if they will
>>>>>> propose to meet in London but I would like the NCSG PC to work on that
>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> looking to hear your comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: *Metalitz, Steven* <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>
>>>>>> Date: 2014-05-31 6:11 GMT+09:00
>>>>>> Subject: RE: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19 May
>>>>>> 2014
>>>>>> To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to let you know that on our call today, CSG concluded that we
>>>>>> cannot support Sam as a Board candidate at this time. We are
>>>>>> continuing to explore further options for moving forward. I will let
>>>>>> you know as soon as we have something further to propose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:56 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* Metalitz, Steven
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19
>>>>>> May 2014
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Steve, so we will wait then for the final decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-05-24 4:01 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
>>>>>> <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had a CSG leadership call on this today and are undertaking further
>>>>>> consultation within our constituencies on a couple of points. We are
>>>>>> to meet again next Friday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:56 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Metalitz, Steven
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19
>>>>>> May 2014
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is it possible to know when CSG will respond to us about Sam
>>>>>> candidature?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-05-21 9:53 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-05-21 4:36 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
>>>>>> <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For circulation to NCSG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Nathalie Peregrine [mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
>>>>>> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM
>>>>>> To: Rosette, Kristina; Metalitz, Steven; tony holmes
>>>>>> (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>); Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>>>>>> (Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de
>>>>>> <mailto:Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de>);
>>>>>> Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>>> <mailto:Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com>; marilynscade at hotmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>; harris at cabase.org.ar
>>>>>> <mailto:harris at cabase.org.ar>
>>>>>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>>>>> Subject: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19 May 2014
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please find attached the transcript of the CSG call held with Sam
>>>>>> Lanfranco on May 19th 2014.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathalie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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