[PC-NCSG] CSG decision regarding our candidate
Amr Elsadr
aelsadr
Sun Jun 1 19:01:42 EEST 2014
>From what I can tell, the CSG have clearly indicated that they will not support Sam. Is there any reason to believe that there may be a splinter constituency within them that we don't know about?
If not, I don't understand the rationale behind putting Sam up in a vote against a candidate of theirs. Klaus..., could you please elaborate on this?
Thanks.
Amr
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> On Jun 1, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Perhaps he did not have a chance for stray votes, just as i never had a
> chance to go up against NOTA in a third round. He was selected as the
> compromise candidate and that did not work. Now we move on.
>
> Yes, we disagree.
> This is something the rest of the PC will have to weigh in on.
>
> avri
>
>> On 01-Jun-14 16:53, Klaus Stoll wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues
>>
>>> On 6/1/2014 2:44 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I do not think that makes sense. We already know that he is not going
>>> to get their votes.
>>
>> to get their votes.
>>
>> I very strongly disagree with this! You had your chance to see if there
>> are any stray votes, Sam has the same right to have a chance to collect
>> stray votes. In fact I have a feeling that he might be able to pick 2
>> votes up, he was well received by some.
>>>
>>> First we need to come to a mutual decide that none of the previous
>>> candidates are qualified to run.
>> Agree, on the other side, why should we allow Bill to take the due
>> process hostage?
>>>
>>> Then CSG and NCSG pick 2 new candidates
>> See above, much too early! Sam needs to have his day!
>>> And we come up with a procedure that terminates - like the one i
>>> suggested.
>> We should discuss this, but nothing is agreed and decided!
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Klaus
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 01-Jun-14 15:29, Klaus Stoll wrote:
>>>> Dear Friends
>>>>
>>>> Greetings. We should be disappointed but not beaten. We should still put
>>>> Sam up as a candidate and have one if not three round of votes on him.
>>>> We might be n for a pleasant surprise.
>>>>
>>>> Yours
>>>>
>>>> Klaus
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/30/2014 11:54 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Metalitz just informed me that CSG cannot support Sam candidate.
>>>>> I am really for Sam and definitely don't like bringing those kind of
>>>>> news.
>>>>>
>>>>> we shouldn't wait for CSG to come with proposals and we should be more
>>>>> proactive in this regard.
>>>>> first thing is to agree about deadline to elect board member to impose
>>>>> some visibility. agree on election process. I don't know if they will
>>>>> propose to meet in London but I would like the NCSG PC to work on that
>>>>> before.
>>>>>
>>>>> looking to hear your comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: *Metalitz, Steven* <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>
>>>>> Date: 2014-05-31 6:11 GMT+09:00
>>>>> Subject: RE: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19 May
>>>>> 2014
>>>>> To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to let you know that on our call today, CSG concluded that we
>>>>> cannot support Sam as a Board candidate at this time. We are
>>>>> continuing to explore further options for moving forward. I will let
>>>>> you know as soon as we have something further to propose.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:56 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* Metalitz, Steven
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19
>>>>> May 2014
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Steve, so we will wait then for the final decision.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-05-24 4:01 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
>>>>> <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a CSG leadership call on this today and are undertaking further
>>>>> consultation within our constituencies on a couple of points. We are
>>>>> to meet again next Friday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:56 PM
>>>>> *To:* Metalitz, Steven
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19
>>>>> May 2014
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> is it possible to know when CSG will respond to us about Sam
>>>>> candidature?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-05-21 9:53 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-05-21 4:36 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
>>>>> <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>> For circulation to NCSG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Nathalie Peregrine [mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
>>>>> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: Rosette, Kristina; Metalitz, Steven; tony holmes
>>>>> (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>); Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>>>>> (Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de
>>>>> <mailto:Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de>);
>>>>> Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>> <mailto:Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com>; marilynscade at hotmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>; harris at cabase.org.ar
>>>>> <mailto:harris at cabase.org.ar>
>>>>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>>>> Subject: CSG call with Sam Lanfranco Transcription - 19 May 2014
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find attached the transcript of the CSG call held with Sam
>>>>> Lanfranco on May 19th 2014.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathalie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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